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Old 06-30-2015, 07:55 PM
 
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the girl from A&F had no cases but political correct says muslims are special. Private sector workers don't have full 1st amendment rights protection. But the owner of a bakery, florist or caterer should be able to decide what he wants to do with regarding to what clients he serves.
That boat sailed a long time ago, see the civil rights act.
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Old 06-30-2015, 07:56 PM
 
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the girl from A&F had no cases but political correct says muslims are special. Private sector workers don't have full 1st amendment rights protection. But the owner of a bakery, florist or caterer should be able to decide what he wants to do with regarding to what clients he serves.
Yeah! I mean my god, those black people shouldn't be allowed to sit at the same table as other people in my restaurant, and Good news folks! They've privatized our city bus service, so now we can go back to making those black folks sit in the back!

See the problem?
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Old 06-30-2015, 07:57 PM
 
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What part of during the same time of the constitution ratification and for decades after not all men, white or black, were free men, women couldn't vote, and the only religion in the US were primarily sects of Christianity? The constitution was talking about free males and the 14th made on males free, not talking about everything you imagine under the sun. That's what the legislator is for.
Then mayne they should have written All black males and listed the laws they were referring to. But they didn't. We have the word they actually wrote down and ratified.
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Although I don't personally consider Islam a bona fide religion I still defend their religious beliefs to the same extent I defend Christians. When they want to chop off heads or be martyrs I oblivious don't. And no stuff like a Christmas tree and Christmas parties doesn't entitled them to what ever representation they want too.

Unlike liberals, I along with the real constitution recognize US heritage, customs and traditions and it's historical DEMOGRAHICS, unlike progressive leftist that put certain group identities up as sacred cows or to compete against each other.
You "appear" to have missed this post.
Let us see: Ban on Sharia Law

Agree? Or, disagree?
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:10 PM
 
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Let us see: Ban on Sharia Law

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I tend to agree with it. A few years ago, I'd have said it was silly, but observing the situation the Brits have gotten themselves into, I now think it's very dangerous for the government to carve a self-governing niche for any religious or ethnic groups. That's the reason Britain has Muslim conclaves that resist ever being "Britainized." (The American Indian nations were already their own entities and are identified as such by the Constitution).
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:12 PM
 
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I tend to agree with it. A few years ago, I'd have said it was silly, but observing the situation the Brits have gotten themselves into, I now think it's very dangerous for the government to carve a self-governing niche for any religious or ethnic groups. That's the reason Britain has Muslim conclaves that resist ever being "Britainized." (The American Indian nations were already their own entities and are identified as such by the Constitution).
Can you explain what is Sharia law? Enumerate them?

And if you ban one, you ban all. Or, none. It is as simple as that. You will always find someone who wants to ban the whims of a religion or another.
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:12 PM
 
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I tend to agree with it. A few years ago, I'd have said it was silly, but observing the situation the Brits have gotten themselves into, I now think it's very dangerous for the government to carve a self-governing niche for any religious or ethnic groups. That's the reason Britain has Muslim conclaves that resist ever being "Britainized." (The American Indian nations were already their own entities and are identified as such by the Constitution).
Do you feel the same about Jewish courts in the US?
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:21 PM
 
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Basically under legal system it provides some protection has person is relying on AG for advise. Same as its a defense to prosecution if a police office signals you to make a illegal turn. In this case the attorney general is turned to as authority in many cases by cities counties and others as authority in state to give attorney general opinion. Many times people on all sides go do so involving law or ruling to bring a issue involving it to court. If the clerk is fired then the clerk has same civil rights to challenge as any. Attorney's are always looking for the right case to bring a challenge on such rulings. Thus is will g to court many times in the future on both sides of issue.
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:24 PM
 
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Let us see: Ban on Sharia Law

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I answered it 6 ways from Sunday. Maybe you missed my reply? The church and state has always been separated. Sharia law is not a religion it is a political system. It's liberal judges overturning the ban. I said I don't consider islam a religion its a cult and political system. Immigration from Islamic culture zones shouldn't even be allowed in the US. It's mostly you liberals that created the problem bring in all these incompatible "refugees", and you supposedly don't like religious people to begin with lol.
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:28 PM
 
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I answered it 6 ways from Sunday. The church and state has always been separated.
Not when state government is rewriting the rules to promote a religious beliefs, and engage in creating religious laws to govern.

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Sharia law is not a religion it is a political system.
Not any more or less than the ten commandments when used as a form of government speech.

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I said I don't consider islam a religion its a cult and political system.
Who cares? There are plenty to be found who think of your religion is a cult and a political system... and in fact, by pushing for laws to be based on your religion, you're proving their point.

You still haven't answered my question: Given freedom of religion, that you surely believe in, if you want to have your religion represented in public property, you surely support the same extended to every other religion, and atheists. Or, you'd rather be a hypocrite?
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