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This entire Cuba deal is a Dog & Pony show of some sort. Hard to figure out what's going on and more importantly .... WHY?
I guess Obama can open the old embassy building - he won't have an Ambassador and he won't have money to operate it - at least not in any budget. Money will have to come from the TeamObama Stash. Castro won't get US dollars for his Embassy in D.C. The Castro Military won't get US weapons and the Trade Embargoes are still in effect. It's still a brutal Communist Dictatorship - you go to prison there on any excuse at all or even no excuse at all ....... don't count on any American intervention. We can't get prisoners out of Cuba today, or out of Iran or Mexico for that matter. The USA is a paper tiger - you are pretty much on your own in a foreign country. We don't even send help for our own Embassy folks.
Congress will fight him on anything for Cuba - mostly because Obama didn't bother to negotiate anything from Castro. It's just like Iran - give them what THEY want and declare a "victory".
The big loser in this will be Hillary. There is a reason that people have risked their lives for 50 years to escape that Hell-Hole. Many of those people live in Florida, they are bi-partisan and very against this Gift to the brutal dictators of Cuba.
Let's see....so the present POTUS is a punk, that's why he won't kill Castro.
So what's Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Ford, Reagan, Clinton and both Bushs excuse?
The Palestinians have nothing to do with this. This topic is about Cuba.
1.Your faux challenge was in the present tense. Mr. Oh is our current self-congratulatory mutha hubbard. Former presidents have nothing to do with this. This topic is about Obama sucking up to tyrants.
2. The Palestinans are among your favorite booboos. Their situation is analogous to the Cuban exiles you mock.
I never said he wasn't. But your guy is still alive and fulminatng over how to fry Florida with Russian nukes.
Slight difference....
When you treat someone as your enemy, you are going to be reciprocated with similar gestures. About time we ended being drama queens and extended friendship.
This entire Cuba deal is a Dog & Pony show of some sort. Hard to figure out what's going on and more importantly .... WHY?
I guess Obama can open the old embassy building - he won't have an Ambassador and he won't have money to operate it - at least not in any budget. Money will have to come from the TeamObama Stash. Castro won't get US dollars for his Embassy in D.C. The Castro Military won't get US weapons and the Trade Embargoes are still in effect. It's still a brutal Communist Dictatorship - you go to prison there on any excuse at all or even no excuse at all ....... don't count on any American intervention. We can't get prisoners out of Cuba today, or out of Iran or Mexico for that matter. The USA is a paper tiger - you are pretty much on your own in a foreign country. We don't even send help for our own Embassy folks.
Congress will fight him on anything for Cuba - mostly because Obama didn't bother to negotiate anything from Castro. It's just like Iran - give them what THEY want and declare a "victory".
The big loser in this will be Hillary. There is a reason that people have risked their lives for 50 years to escape that Hell-Hole. Many of those people live in Florida, they are bi-partisan and very against this Gift to the brutal dictators of Cuba.
You don't have a shred of evidence proving that Floridians by and large are against normalizing relations with Cuba. None. That's just wishful thinking on your part. The Cuban exile community isn't even united on the issue anymore and haven't been for a few decades.
The overwhelming majority of people in Florida barely knows that Cuba is across the straights. They don't care about the Cuba issue. Dade County isn't the whole state of Florida.
And again with the "Obama didn't bother to negotiate anything" nonsense. He did negotiate. He negotiated when we'd open embassies and normalize relations. There is nothing else to negotiate. We don't have the right to tell Cubans what kind of government they should have.
That said, you're right that the present congress will probably fight Obama for any embassy funding. Rubio himself has said as much. But the winds of change are blowing, and people like Rubio will get blown over like a leaf if they don't get the hell out of the way. Momentum is towards normalizing relations, and the GOP (as usual), are running their mouths and talking foolishness in a futile attempt to stop what is now unstoppable.
But that should come as no surprise. It took them a decade to realize that they'd lost the Gay Marriage debate, a few years to realize that they'd lost the Obamacare debate, and 50 years later, they're still claiming that we had Vietnam beat.
Republicans: a day late and a dollar short.
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Originally Posted by Yeledaf
1.Your faux challenge was in the present tense. Mr. Oh is our current self-congratulatory mutha hubbard. Former presidents have nothing to do with this. This topic is about Obama sucking up to tyrants.
2. The Palestinans are among your favorite booboos. Their situation is analogous to the Cuban exiles you mock.
The Palestinians are among my favorite booboos? Really? I don't give a damn about the Palestinians and their situation isn't analogous to Cuban Exiles in any way.
The only thing i've ever said about the Palestinians (that most of you wingers interpret as pro-Palestinian) is when right wing dingbats tell me that the Palestinians are just people that arrived in Israel out of thin air with no history in the region.
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Originally Posted by Yeledaf
I never said he wasn't. But your guy is still alive and fulminatng over how to fry Florida with Russian nukes.
What the hell? Did you wake up this morning inside of one of E. Howard Hunt's 1960's spy novels?
Only a fool would think Castro is a nice guy or some kind of humanitarian.
None the less, having basic diplomatic relations with Cuba does not stamp his regime with approval.
No, but is sure is a huge victory that he can use as a message to dissidents that he is unstoppable ... afterall he beat the Gringo imperialists and forced them to end their embargo! What message do you think this is sending to democracy activists and others who oppose the Castro regime? It's basically telling them they should just roll over and accept tyranny.
BTW: the Cold War never ended in Latin America. The same old circus of anti-American thugs are still in power .... they just no longer have the Russian aid.
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