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Old 07-17-2015, 06:57 PM
 
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The Confederate Army was the first to offer freedom to black slaves who joined their ranks.
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Old 07-17-2015, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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We could wipe out every statue, burn every confederate flag, and rename every highway in America after MLK, and black ghetto thugs would still act like black ghetto thugs. The other 99% of blacks would live normal, respectable lives exactly like they do now.

Thugs come in any color, in every country, and from all socioeconomic backgrounds. Rednecks swilling crappy beer while watching cars drive in a circle aren't the cause of ghetto thug behavior.

I wholly resent that comment.
Though I don't swill beer I am a gearhead and thoroughly enjoy professional auto racing as much as I do pro football.
Does your logic apply if rednecks like F1 or Indycars?
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Old 07-17-2015, 07:26 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I wholly resent that comment.
Though I don't swill beer I am a gearhead and thoroughly enjoy professional auto racing as much as I do pro football.
Does your logic apply if rednecks like F1 or Indycars?
You must have missed the memo, it is social acceptable to degrade and belittle white men with derogatory terminology and stereotypes.
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Old 07-17-2015, 07:31 PM
 
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The Confederate Army was the first to offer freedom to black slaves who joined their ranks.
No, the British during the Revolutionary War were the first to try that tactic with only minor success.

See Dunmore's Proclamation.

Oh, and a fun fact:

The Day New York Tried to Secede

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During the first three months of 1861, New York City boldly flirted with leaving the Union. The reasons were decades in the making, but the sentiment was never more pointed than on January 6, 1861, when New York Mayor Fernando Wood addressed the city council.

“It would seem that a dissolution of the Federal Union is inevitable,” he observed, noting the sympathy joining New York to “our aggrieved brethren of the Slave States” and suggesting that the city declare its own independence from the Union. “When Disunion has become a fixed and certain fact, why may not New York disrupt the bands which bind her to a venal and corrupt master—to a people and a party that have plundered her revenues, attempted to ruin her, take away the power of self-government, and destroyed the Confederacy of which she was the proud Empire City?”

Wood was preaching to the converted. Then, as now, New York City was the nation’s financial hub, and had made its reputation—and the lion’s share of its revenues—by supplying goods and services to the slave South. Most New Yorkers were decidedly pro-Southern and for years leading up to Abraham Lincoln’s election, two scoundrels—Wood and U.S. Marshal Isaiah Rynders—nurtured pro-slavery practices, both legal and illegal, in the city.
Just in case we forgot that the Union had slave states in at as well, even NYC was strongly sympathetic to the Confederacy.
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Old 07-17-2015, 10:40 PM
 
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Why is it better to honor those veterans who were trying to rebel against the United States and preserve slavery, than it is to honor those who fought to preserve our union?

I have a third great grandfather who was killed at the Battle of Richmond. He fought to preserve the union. Why should his memory be ignored in favor of people fighting for slavery?
Who's ignoring his memory?

Logic -- not a liberal forte.
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Old 07-17-2015, 10:45 PM
 
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I'm an American veteran. I live in a former confederate state.

Your "analysis" is inaccurate.

It's over. Move on.

He misquoted the U.S. code that made Confederate veterans American veterans?

Don't think so.

And I doubt you're a veteran.

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Old 07-17-2015, 10:49 PM
 
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The Confederate Battle Flag was resurrected from the history museum in the 60s by racists. If you find a living Confederate Veteran we can give them benefits. The people waving the flags today are scumbag racists.

BTW I'm a vet.
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I too am an American veteran. Georgia is my adopted home state. My great great grandfather fought in the war on the Confederate side. In fact, he is buried in Seattle's Lake View Cemetery, where there is a monument to Confederate soldiers that some now want to be removed. I don't care. History moves on. If people want to finally quit whistling Dixie, great.
More faux "veterans" and "descendants" of Civil War soldiers.

This is becoming a trend.

Thought it would happen sooner.

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Old 07-17-2015, 10:52 PM
 
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"Loyalty to our ancestors does not include loyalty to their mistakes."
- George Santayana
So who owns slaves in America now?

Everyone makes mistakes.

Where does your slippery slope lead?

It's just another instance of the word "racism" becoming meaningless through overuse and selective outrage.

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Old 07-17-2015, 10:54 PM
 
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I think we need to dig up all of the bodies of confederate soldiers, Desecrate their bodies, find their descendants and employ the Final Solution to them.

Sincerely,

Politically Correct Nazis

Hitler would be proud
We should do the same to Africans who sold other Africans to each other, to Arabs and to Europeans during that period when slavery was practiced by -- uh -- everyone.
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Old 07-17-2015, 11:00 PM
 
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I find it very peculiar when people of today judge and measure the character of those in the past through the prism of today's cultural norms and through the perverse prism of liberalism.
They do that because they've been brainwashed by liberal/left teachers and professors.
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