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Well I don't who those "some of you" might be, but I can assure you that I am not one of them. In times like this I ascribe to Lee Iacocca, "lead, follow, or get out the way."
Well, take the post above my last. This poster believes that history will ridicule and punish the person for standing up for a belief and not letting the state dictate or compromise his/her belief. They must be punished somehow, right? So that poster is taking comfort that history will punish them, just as the religious take comfort that god will punish the sinners... somewhere down the road. As I asked earlier, why not punish them now? Tar and feather them when they quit the job.
As for "getting out of the way," I can agree with that. Anyone who has any belief in something other than what this nation is turning into coercive dogma, had better get out of the way and try to find a way of retaining their freedom to hold a non-state-sanctioned opinion.
Where that is, nowadays, I have no idea. But those who believe in liberty have always found a way at some point in the historic time-line to establish it. It's doubtful it will be any time during our lifetimes, though. Generally there has to be unbearable repression for a generation or two. We're not quite there yet. But we're heading that direction.
they are also free to practice their religion in their regular lives as well. that is what freedom of religion is all about, not just the freedom to go to church.
You are not free to practice religion to the extent that you deny lawful rights to others around you or otherwise act in illegal manners. That's the whole beauty of America: you can believe what you want and worship as you like, but you don't get to tyrannize others with it.
Not like any employee when they work for the state. The state can't infringe upon 1st amendment rights.
SCOTUS has settled that argument.
THe clerks have a job to do- they issue licenses of all kinds, not just marriage licenses.
Clerks don't get to pick and choose what kind of licenses they issue. If there is some question about a license, others decide the issue.
Anyone is free to quit a job for any reason they choose. If the ladies want to quit, that's fine and dandy, and I hope they find jobs to which they are better suited. I am sure their replacements will be better suited to do the job than any of them ever were.
Bit of a late bump, but I'm sure those women were not making $80k a year and more or less had the job handed to them by their mother, plus have one of their offspring working in the office.
I still applaud them for their choice and wish them the best in the future.
Refusing to grant a marriage license, if that is your job, is not "practicing religion". It may be offensive to a minute fraction of believers, but it is not a practice of Christianity. Having said that, as a legal matter discrimination could well end up being recognized as a practice. The SC has a way of taking the constitution well beyond the plain meaning of the words as is evidenced by the ruling that created this issue in the first place.
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