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Old 07-05-2015, 01:20 PM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 17 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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A good portion of American couples don't have what is known as a robust sex life. I think it averages about once a week.
still, i think what i mentioned is more a reason than what you mentioned.
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Old 07-05-2015, 01:21 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I think it has to do with the fact that a lot of parents forget what it was like to be that age. It's easy to talk about abstinence when you have an adults self control and the hormones aren't new to you.
I didn't say anything about abstinence. I've advocated being honest and open about sex, and providing teens with barrier method contraceptives in several posts.

What makes this a particularly hard problem to solve among some populations is that they get free BC via Medicaid or CHIP but aren't using it.
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Old 07-05-2015, 01:27 PM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 17 days ago)
 
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What makes this a particularly hard problem to solve among some populations is that they get free BC via Medicaid or CHIP but aren't using it.
But that has nothing to do with this thread.

You seem to be putting forth an argument as if these teens are receiving(actually getting it, not just the option) free birth control and throwing it away, when that clearly isnt the case.

i really doubt you would go to your school nurse, ask for the pill, and then never take it.
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Old 07-05-2015, 01:29 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Still a MAJOR problem:

Births to Unmarried Women | Child Trends

It's a significant problem, and by ignoring it, you're a cruel enabler of children's (and later when they're adults) struggle and hardship.
Im not ignoring it at all, poor families in general are a major problem.

Im arguing based on the actual words of your post where you equated being unwed to being in a single family home when they are not one in the same, which you have already agreed is true.

you are jsut being arbitrary at this point.
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Old 07-05-2015, 01:31 PM
 
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But that has nothing to do with this thread.
Actually, it does. Free BC could be handed out at schools like it is handed out via Medicaid and CHIP, but you'd still have the same populations CHOOSING to not use it.
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Old 07-05-2015, 01:33 PM
 
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Im not ignoring it at all, poor families in general are a major problem.

Im arguing based on the actual words of your post where you equated being unwed to being in a single family home when they are not one in the same, which you have already agreed is true.

you are jsut being arbitrary at this point.
I'm a child advocate. We already know that the populations who get free BC aren't using it. THAT issue needs to be addressed. By not doing so, you're a hardship enabler. BIG difference between the two of us.
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Old 07-05-2015, 01:35 PM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 17 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Actually, it does. Free BC could be handed out at schools like it is handed out via Medicaid and CHIP, but you'd still have the same populations CHOOSING to not use it.
The OP is about the simply ability of kids to get these things from a school. not whether or not some groups of students choose to use them or not.

The very logic that they wouldnt use it proves that point.
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Old 07-05-2015, 01:39 PM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 17 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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I'm a child advocate. We already know that the populations who get free BC aren't using it. THAT issue needs to be addressed. By not doing so, you're a hardship enabler. BIG difference between the two of us.
This is completely false in the way that you are arguing it.

the county health clinic gives out free condoms to who ever asks, however the health clinic is 40 miles away from me, so while I technically have access to it, in reality I cant get to it.

Is CHIP and Medicaid not the same, you would need a doctors visit, which means informing your parents in one way or another may it be by transportation or the bill. Even a doctors bill that says you owe nothing still comes to your house.

By you not being realistic, the enabler is you.
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Old 07-05-2015, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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More secular teachers and administrators spindoctoring themselves from their mission statement delving into
matters that expose their extreme leftest views on children being mentored by immoral philosophers gone into
la la land . Stop it, shut up and teach!!!!
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Old 07-05-2015, 01:40 PM
 
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The OP is about the simply ability of kids to get these things from a school. not whether or not some groups of students choose to use them or not.
Yes, provide free barrier method contraceptives at schools. Just don't be surprised when the same populations who already get free contraceptives CHOOSE to not use the ones provided for free at schools, either.

You're deliberately avoiding the fact that unwed births are significantly higher among the populations most likely to already be receiving Medicaid and CHIP.
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