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View Poll Results: What should be done about the California state flag.
ban the California bear flag with its racist legacy. 10 34.48%
keep the California flag and dismiss the racist aspects as vestigal, 12 41.38%
keep the bear flag, but re-interpret it as the "International Bear Brotherhood Flag," representing the gay subculture known as "bears." 7 24.14%
Voters: 29. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-05-2015, 10:49 AM
 
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They have been here for more then 12,000 years, not at all the same as Europeans.
Which wave of Europeans?
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Old 07-05-2015, 11:57 AM
 
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They have been here for more then 12,000 years, not at all the same as Europeans.
Please provide a link that anyone was living on this continent for 12,000 years.
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Old 07-05-2015, 12:00 PM
 
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Can you count? Twelve thousand years is not a blip in time, they have been here long enough to be genetically distinct from most Asian populations. It means a lot. Many Northern Europeans cannot even count themselves that old genetically, the blue eyed gene only goes back about 11,000 years. The indigenous peoples of the Americas are way older then most Europeans.
Who were they mating with that made them lose their Asian genetics or looks? I see many indios that have some distinct Asian looks about them today.
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Old 07-05-2015, 12:08 PM
 
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Please provide a link that anyone was living on this continent for 12,000 years.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1118104010.htm

Radiocarbon tests of carbonized plant remains where artifacts were unearthed last May along the Savannah River in Allendale County by University of South Carolina archaeologist Dr. Albert Goodyear indicate that the sediments containing these artifacts are at least 50,000 years old, meaning that humans inhabited North American long before the last ice age.

When Did Humans Come to the Americas? | Science | Smithsonian

The age was surprising, even shocking, for it suddenly made the Aucilla sinkhole one of the earliest places in the Americas to betray the presence of human beings. Curiously, though, scholars largely ignored the discoveries of the Aucilla River Prehistory Project, instead clinging to the conviction that America’s earliest settlers arrived more recently, some 13,500 years ago. But now the sinkhole is getting a fresh look, along with several other provocative archaeological sites that show evidence of an earlier human presence in the Americas, perhaps much earlier.

Humans arrived in North America 2,500 years earlier than thought | Science | The Guardian

Humans first arrived in North America more than 2,500 years earlier than previously thought, according to an analysis of ancient stone tools found in Texas. And the people who left them appear to have developed a portable toolkit used for killing and preparing meat.

Researchers found a haul of thousands of artefacts near the state capital, Austin, some of which were identified as blades and other tools. The material was buried in sediments that are between 13,200 and 15,500 years old.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...bajaskull.html

But recent research, including the Baja California study, indicates that the initial settlement of the continent was instead driven by Southeast Asians who occupied Australia 60,000 years ago and then expanded into the Americas about 13,500 years ago, prior to Mongoloid people arriving from northeast Asia.


Wanna keep going?
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Old 07-05-2015, 12:18 PM
 
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Or maybe stone age Europeans arrived in North America first 23,000 years ago

Smithsonian Science News –New book reveals Ice Age mariners from Europe were America's first inhabitants
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Old 07-05-2015, 12:38 PM
 
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1118104010.htm

Radiocarbon tests of carbonized plant remains where artifacts were unearthed last May along the Savannah River in Allendale County by University of South Carolina archaeologist Dr. Albert Goodyear indicate that the sediments containing these artifacts are at least 50,000 years old, meaning that humans inhabited North American long before the last ice age.

When Did Humans Come to the Americas? | Science | Smithsonian

The age was surprising, even shocking, for it suddenly made the Aucilla sinkhole one of the earliest places in the Americas to betray the presence of human beings. Curiously, though, scholars largely ignored the discoveries of the Aucilla River Prehistory Project, instead clinging to the conviction that America’s earliest settlers arrived more recently, some 13,500 years ago. But now the sinkhole is getting a fresh look, along with several other provocative archaeological sites that show evidence of an earlier human presence in the Americas, perhaps much earlier.

Humans arrived in North America 2,500 years earlier than thought | Science | The Guardian

Humans first arrived in North America more than 2,500 years earlier than previously thought, according to an analysis of ancient stone tools found in Texas. And the people who left them appear to have developed a portable toolkit used for killing and preparing meat.

Researchers found a haul of thousands of artefacts near the state capital, Austin, some of which were identified as blades and other tools. The material was buried in sediments that are between 13,200 and 15,500 years old.

Who Were The First Americans?

But recent research, including the Baja California study, indicates that the initial settlement of the continent was instead driven by Southeast Asians who occupied Australia 60,000 years ago and then expanded into the Americas about 13,500 years ago, prior to Mongoloid people arriving from northeast Asia.


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See post #25.
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Old 07-05-2015, 12:42 PM
 
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Please provide a link that anyone was living on this continent for 12,000 years.
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See post #25.
So yes, SOMEONE was here 12k years ago.
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Old 07-05-2015, 02:00 PM
 
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So yes, SOMEONE was here 12k years ago.
Speculation at best and who's to say who was here that long ago to try and claim that their ancestors were native to this continent? Doesn't matter in today's world anyway. Sick of people living in the past to justify some ridiculous agenda today.

Truth be told if one believes in the Bible we all originated in Africa, so what's the point?
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