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Old 11-10-2015, 01:45 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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How many are they going to jail, 11 Million.
Put them in chain gangs for a year repairing our roads and then deport them and let them know, they come here again, it is 2 year on the chain gang.... Problem solved and kills 2 birdss with one stone
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Old 11-10-2015, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You claim that it "isn't worth the cost" yet ignore the harm they do when not jailed. How hypocritical of you. The laws that weren't enforced deal with illegal immigration and sanctuary cities ignoring federal laws at their own whim. It is call lawlessness on the part of LE.

I bet that you think guns cause crime and their removal will stop it, without considering how many illegal guns are out there in the hands of criminals and illegals. And even preventing one murder is not worth all of your ideals to the contrary, at least until the one murder is someone dear to you.
You mean like once in a great while, commit a murder? You realize born and raised Americans also commit murders. If you are so concerned about preventing one murder, then we should be putting legals and illegals in prison that we think might possibly commit murder someday.

You know, if you are so concerned about preventing murders from happening....
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Old 11-10-2015, 03:05 PM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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You mean like once in a great while, commit a murder? You realize born and raised Americans also commit murders. If you are so concerned about preventing one murder, then we should be putting legals and illegals in prison that we think might possibly commit murder someday.

You know, if you are so concerned about preventing murders from happening....
If YOU say so.

BTW, the murder rate is a great deal more than "once in a while". Look at Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore and along the southern border. A great many are preventable with law enforcement. If you continue to deny this then the murders are on you.
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Old 11-10-2015, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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If YOU say so.

BTW, the murder rate is a great deal more than "once in a while". Look at Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore and along the southern border. A great many are preventable with law enforcement. If you continue to deny this then the murders are on you.
You realize those murders are being committed by born and bred legal Americans at a much higher rate than any illegals are?

Also, you realize that the murder rate has been dropping in this country for some time now, so I don't think this as big of an issue as you are pretending it to be, and our current murder laws would just fine for putting those that commit murder behind bars.
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Old 11-10-2015, 05:20 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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If YOU say so.

BTW, the murder rate is a great deal more than "once in a while". Look at Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore and along the southern border. A great many are preventable with law enforcement. If you continue to deny this then the murders are on you.

Murder rates, are directly related to economic conditions surrounding.

Those cities that have "property taxed" the poor out, have seen a drastic reduction in murder.
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Old 11-11-2015, 09:54 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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You realize those murders are being committed by born and bred legal Americans
at a much higher rate than any illegals are?
Your proof, other than in Chicago. I suspect, but have not researched it, that you are making false statements.

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Also, you realize that the murder rate has been dropping in this country for
some time now, so I don't think this as big of an issue as you are pretending it
to be, and our current murder laws would just fine for putting those that commit
murder behind bars.
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Again, you seem to be saying that murder is all right, as long as it is a low number.

Additionally, our laws only work when they are enforced, which they are not when dealing with the illegals who keep returning after the few are deported.
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Old 11-11-2015, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Your proof, other than in Chicago. I suspect, but have not researched it, that you are making false statements.




Again, you seem to be saying that murder is all right, as long as it is a low number.

Additionally, our laws only work when they are enforced, which they are not when dealing with the illegals who keep returning after the few are deported.
Well feel free to research who commits murders in this country and where they are from, I bet you will find out your thought is wrong.

No, I am not saying murder is okay, I am saying we don't need duplicate laws against murder. The laws we have already address that.

If someone is being deported, then the laws are working because they are being caught and deported. The murder laws are working because those that commit murder are being arrested and tried for murder.

Why we need duplicate laws to make sensitive right wingers feel good about themselves makes no sense.
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Old 11-11-2015, 12:36 PM
 
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A criminal is just someone who breaks the law. This is not a character judgment. A criminal is not a bad person .....
This is simple and obvious insanity. Immediate acquaintance with a rubber room is needed.
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Old 11-11-2015, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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You realize those murders are being committed by born and bred legal Americans at a much higher rate than any illegals are?

Also, you realize that the murder rate has been dropping in this country for some time now, so I don't think this as big of an issue as you are pretending it to be, and our current murder laws would just fine for putting those that commit murder behind bars.

If Kate's Law saved just one life, would you support it? Yes or No?
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Old 11-11-2015, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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If Kate's Law saved just one life, would you support it? Yes or No?
How would it save one life?
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