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Old 07-09-2015, 02:44 PM
 
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So let me get this straight....
A lunatic kills people in S.C. and because there is a picture with him wearing a jacket with the confederate flag.... it has to go?????
BUUUUUUTTTTTT millions of illegals have crossed our borders.......ILLEGALLY.....and every day an illegal kills/robs/assaults/rapes and god knows what else to Americans but they get to stay..... ok I got it.

The stupidity is amazing.
Two parts to your post. So you get two different posts.

Regarding the removal of the flag and it's connection to those murders. Here is reality

removing a flag that is a symbol of anti black racism flying on a statehouse building with black people protesting for decades for its removal because it was placed there in 1962 in opposition to black civil rights is the honest reason people wanted the flag removed for decades, not just now, but for decades.

It took the death of nine black South Carolinans by a white supremacist correctly using the symbolism of the flag for conservatives to be shamed and forced to finally do the right thing.

That's the truth of how the removal of the flag is related to the murders. It took those murders for the naked racism of the confederate flag to be so out there that even conservatives who generally love or at least tolerate symbols of anti black racism to be shamed into at least removing it from the building.
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Old 07-09-2015, 02:48 PM
 
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So let me get this straight....
A lunatic kills people in S.C. and because there is a picture with him wearing a jacket with the confederate flag.... it has to go?????
BUUUUUUTTTTTT millions of illegals have crossed our borders.......ILLEGALLY.....and every day an illegal kills/robs/assaults/rapes and god knows what else to Americans but they get to stay..... ok I got it.

The stupidity is amazing.
Here is second post regarding the words of Donald Trump and connecting murder to illegals.


this is logical thinking 101.

If any politician came out and said well republicans are rapists and criminals, and then used rapes and murders committed by individual conservatives as proof, everyone would understand what that person is doing, slandering conservatives as rapists and criminals.

No one would use the idiotic defense well some conservatives are rapists and criminals, that the person is just going after the conservatives who are illegally breaking the law not all conservatives.

Because the statement that some human beings are rapists and criminals has no offensive meaning.

Because we know it's true. It's apart of the condition of being human. Meaning criminal behavior is apart of human behavior.

When you say x,y,z group are rapists and criminals, you are directly saying that criminal behavior is a condition of being a member of x, y, z group.

That by saying Mexican immigrants are rapists and criminals, that person is saying that being a rapist and a criminal is a condition of being Mexican. They are connecting criminal behavior to ethnicity. If not then what's the point.

This is a fundamentally racist appeal that trump was making and everyone gets that's the point he was making.

The racist point that being a Mexican immigrant is a condition of being a rapist and a criminal.
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Old 07-09-2015, 02:54 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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This country is so dumbed down by knee-jerk liberal policies, it is a wonder how it is still functioning on a daily basis.
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Old 07-09-2015, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Trump is a wealthy ass that can say anything he damn well pleases and does. At least he is not hiding his absurdities under a cover of platitudes and condescension like the leading Democrat.
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Old 07-09-2015, 02:58 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Here is second post regarding the words of Donald Trump and connecting murder to illegals.


this is logical thinking 101.

If any politician came out and said well republicans are rapists and criminals, and then used rapes and murders committed by individual conservatives as proof, everyone would understand what that person is doing, slandering conservatives as rapists and criminals.

No one would use the idiotic defense well some conservatives are rapists and criminals, that the person is just going after the conservatives who are illegally breaking the law not all conservatives.

Because the statement that some human beings are rapists and criminals has no offensive meaning.

Because we know it's true. It's apart of the condition of being human. Meaning criminal behavior is apart of human behavior.

When you say x,y,z group are rapists and criminals, you are directly saying that criminal behavior is a condition of being a member of x, y, z group.

That by saying Mexican immigrants are rapists and criminals, that person is saying that being a rapist and a criminal is a condition of being Mexican. They are connecting criminal behavior to ethnicity. If not then what's the point.

This is a fundamentally racist appeal that trump was making and everyone gets that's the point he was making.

The racist point that being a Mexican immigrant is a condition of being a rapist and a criminal.
mexican is not an ethnicity
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Old 07-09-2015, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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What I find truly sad is how you people try and defend illegals.... speaks volumes.
We don't defend illegal immigration. We speak out against untrue stereotypes and the attempt to demonize brown people with distorted information.

We are FOR comprehensive immigration reform which includes e-verify, a secure border, immediate deportation of any illegal with a criminal record and a path to permanent residency for the rest. SB744 passed by the bi-partisan Senate 68-32 is a perfect example of what we stand for.
It's that path to permanent residency for the rest, is what makes a right wing conservative's hemorrhoids grow an inch a week, now doesn't it?
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Old 07-09-2015, 03:05 PM
 
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This country is so dumbed down by knee-jerk liberal policies, it is a wonder how it is still functioning on a daily basis.
Actually, the dumbing down is going on with the cons who devalue education.
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Old 07-09-2015, 03:08 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Actually, the dumbing down is going on with the cons who devalue education.



Actually, it isn't, but I would suspect a reply like this from a lib.
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Old 07-09-2015, 03:09 PM
 
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Sigh. Both are wrong, its nice to see something done about one of them, but to be honest the one brought up by the OP is a larger issue. By definition every single illegal immigrant starts off their stay by committing a crime.
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Old 07-09-2015, 03:12 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Actually, it isn't, but I would suspect a reply like this from a lib.
I don't expect much from cons, yet they still usually come up with less.
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