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Old 07-09-2015, 05:43 PM
 
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I want a house in Malibu, but I'm white, so am I going to be discriminated against and denied while black people get in? Also I'm a few million short, I should be entitled to govt assistance so the rich neighborhood can be integrated with middle class folks.

Better yet, the govt should just TAKE thoss rich people's houses and GIVE me one.

Didn't they do that in Russia about 100 yrs ago?

 
Old 07-09-2015, 05:44 PM
 
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Do you want suburbs to stop taking money to build, maintain, or update affordable housing at all?

Because forcing them very narrowly to import the inner-city ghetto -- and that's what this is, it's not a call to bring in people of color (minority professionals and solid working families won't qualify), it's not a call to provide housing for the poor (the money is already doing that), it's an intersectional call to bring in the ghetto specifically and narrowly -- is going to result in exactly that, if aggressively pursued.
 
Old 07-09-2015, 05:45 PM
 
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Specifically enforce what law and how? Anyone who can afford to live in an area is free to move there as has always been the case. And anyone who does not like their neighbors and neighborhood is free to move away if they can afford to do so.
The fair housing act laws to end residential racial segregation.

Your basic premise is a lie of course. Proven wrong by investigations into housing discrimination. I suggest you inform yourself.
 
Old 07-09-2015, 05:45 PM
 
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Ghetto people?

Lol

Again the hatred and anger and derision directed at other Americans is not surprising.


No HUD gets it funding from all Americans.
Enforcing fair housing has many components,requiring municipalities that get money from the state and federal government to enforce fair housing, has nothing to do with your point.

This is merely HUD requiring those municipalities to build housing that can support a diverse cross section of Americans as the law requires and as they agreed to follow.

Part of the fair housing act is building low income housing all over America and not just concentrating it in certain areas.

There is no justification to say low income housing can only he built in these places by these people with the same skin color, such a policy is fundamentally racist and violates our laws.

That's only sound policy and the right thing to do for all Americans.

Your calling people names is the irrational ugliness behind opposition to fair housing for all Americans.
'Low income housing' is another world for high crime. You are promoting seeding crime in every neighborhood and for people to live in areas they couldn't otherwise afford without using tax payer's money. This is beyond communism.
 
Old 07-09-2015, 05:46 PM
 
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If cities want federal funds then they have to play by federal rules.
and just how is the government supposed to enforce such rules? gee i am sorry white family, you cannot move into this particular neighborhood because there are too many white families here now. however we do have an opening in this black neighborhood that you can move into right now, enjoy!!

is that what this country is coming to? back when the clintons unveiled their health care system, one of the things that was in the package was that nurses had to work where the government wanted them to work. sorry we have too many nurses in tucson, you will have to move to bisbee and be a nurse there instead, we dont care if the rest of your family is living in tucson, you can see them on weekends.

now the government is trying to tell people where they can live and where they cant. again whats next? where you can work? where you can drive? when you can drive? when you can travel period? what you can eat? where you can shop? what products you can buy?

at what point do we tell the government that they have far too much control over our lives?
 
Old 07-09-2015, 05:48 PM
 
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Ghetto people?

Lol

Again the hatred and anger and derision directed at other Americans is not surprising.


No HUD gets it funding from all Americans.
Enforcing fair housing has many components,requiring municipalities that get money from the state and federal government to enforce fair housing, has nothing to do with your point.

This is merely HUD requiring those municipalities to build housing that can support a diverse cross section of Americans as the law requires and as they agreed to follow.

Part of the fair housing act is building low income housing all over America and not just concentrating it in certain areas.

There is no justification to say low income housing can only he built in these places by these people with the same skin color, such a policy is fundamentally racist and violates our laws.

That's only sound policy and the right thing to do for all Americans.

Your calling people names is the irrational ugliness behind opposition to fair housing for all Americans.
So will this bring down the value of my home when they build low income housing in my neighborhood?
 
Old 07-09-2015, 05:48 PM
 
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If cities want federal funds then they have to play by federal rules.
No they don't; ask Colorado or San Fransico. Just ignore what you don't agree with. Whatever turns you on ;not even a law involved this time.
 
Old 07-09-2015, 05:49 PM
 
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now the government is trying to tell people where they can live and where they cant. again whats next? where you can work? where you can drive? when you can drive? when you can travel period? what you can eat? where you can shop? what products you can buy?
Yes.
 
Old 07-09-2015, 05:49 PM
 
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This is a lie. This is not new. It is part of the fair housing act passed in the late 1960's following the murder of MLK.

All President Obama is doing is trying to fulfill the law of desegregation.

But this gives rise to another point.

We often hear how America isn't a racist society.

Yet we continue to have extremely racially segregated neighborhoods.

In a non racist society, the race or ethnicity of one's neighbors is irrelevant and not a factor at all.

If people aren't racist then this has to be the case.

Anything else involves people making decisions on the race of their neighbors because certain races behave this or that way, which is connecting behavior with skin color which is racist.

So which one is it America?

If racism is dead and race is irrelevant why is the race of your neighbors so important when deciding where to live?

Why is there still a legal need for the fair housing act passed in the late 1960's to be enforced?
Typical liberal, racist banter.

1. Blacks account for most of the crime in America

2. "Integrating" a low income, high crime segment of the population into a high income low crime area will not change the "integrated citizens". It simply creates an opportunity for those of lower income to commit crimes without having to drive so far.

3. Cultural change (embracing education, two parent families, work ethic, and condemning a perpetual welfare state) is what can change a group of people. Changing your zip code just transfers the same problems to another area. Do you really think that "integration" into higher income neighborhoods will make black families suddenly have two parents, embrace education, condemn violence, and support a solid work ethic?

4. When southern blacks migrated to then prosperous Detroit, did it change them or Detroit?

5. "Integration" of low income citizens into high income areas is how one creates a slum. Did you realize that Harlem Heights was once a wealthy neighborhood? Why is this not the case now, while Martha's Vineyard is still wealthy?


Wake up- If you want to change society, start with yourself.
 
Old 07-09-2015, 05:53 PM
 
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'Low income housing' is another world for high crime. You are promoting seeding crime in every neighborhood and for people to live in areas they couldn't otherwise afford without using tax payer's money. This is beyond communism.
Agreed-

low income= high crime. The criminals will reduce CO2 output by not having to drive so far to commit crimes. It is a liberal dream come true.

I wonder what will happen when low income, high crime America meets well armed, well funded, politically connected upper middle class and wealthy America?
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