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Seems lie iit is done now. As in any negotiations, you get some things you want and you don't get some things you want.... net result, an agreement all parties can live with.
Right on target for obamas destruction of the world. He deserves the firing squad. Corrupt bas tard...
All the Talk out of the Conservative Echo Chambers are just rhetoric for political purposes.
Even When Bush was in Power despite all his mistakes in Iraq. Bush refused to Attack Iran as Cheney and Bolton were pushing him. It was not accident. bush and Condoleezza Rice were no geniuses. They just listened to all the intelligence reports and analysts and Geo-stragists who had played war games and had predicted that in short, medium or long term attacking iran is detrimental to U.S interests.
Hell it was Bush (rice) who started secret negotiations with Iran in Oman back in 2007.
I wrote nothing about a conservative echo chamber. Irrelevant.
Now Let's talk about the GWBush administration.
GWBush let Iran get over 6,000 centrifuges after he get elected and he called them part of the axis of evil. They started essentially with nothing when he was elected.
GWBush tried sanctions against Iran, no where near as strong as the ones President Obana enacted without the help of other nations, but they wouldn't talk to Iran, this strategy failed miserably. As can be seen by the explosion of Iranian centrifuges during his Presidency.
President Obama has once again succeeded where others failed. He got real sanctions that conservatives said would make no difference. They were wrong. These sanctions brought Iran to bargain over its nuclear program like never before.
Again what is the conservative solution? But insane nonsense? What conservatives are saying is worse than the status quo because the sanctions will end without help from those other nations.
We'd have no leverage to do anything with out the cooperation of those other nations.
So listening to conservatives would lead to the death of the sanctions and Iran still working towards building a nuclear weapon, and we'd have no ability to do anything to stop it.
This is insane. This makes no sense. conservatives are insane. That's my point.
Sure, while Iran's leaders are still shouting death to America, torturing those who disagree with them, sponsoring terror organizations around the world. A real historic day. Situation has not changed a bit.
Lol! While flipping through the channels, Megyn Kelly showed a video of people in the street of Iran and said, "they are yelling death to America, listen." Saw video and heard unintelligible yelling.
Turned channel and found this video where the young people praising America.
Until the Next U.S and Iranian Administrations come in to power. There will be a whole lot of noise coming out of
lobby groups (think AIPAC, AEI, Heritage), Congress, .. It is just noise.
The entire U.S Foreign establishment was for reaching a Deal. They were even for It under George bush.
When Condoleezza Rice was conducting secret negotiations with Iran in Oman.
There will be people in the U.S who will complain why didn't we get them to down to all our demands.
There will be people in Iran who will ***** why is that we are surrendering.
The reality is of course rather gray. This is difficult deal to implement. but if it holds true it helps the U.S what it has wanted to do for nearly ten years. and that is lighten its footprint in Middle East so it can go about policing the waters surrounding china with far more resources.
How is a nuclear Iran an interests to the United States?
Again, to anyone what are conservatives talking about?
Has anyone figured out why this is a bad deal?
I keep listening to conservatives say this is a bad deal but they have not explained why.
This is yet another moment to those paying attention where conservatives prove how not in touch with reality they are about this and many other issues.
I have seen references to Neville Chamberline. Huh? Neville Chamberline combined with other nations to force crippling economic sanctions on Germany that forced Germany to negotiate giving away nearly all of their nuclear stuff?
I have seen references to how Jewish people will die as a result of this deal, how?
How does getting Iran to give up most of their nuclear stuff and stopping their nuclear program lead to Jewish deaths?
Does anyone have any idea what conservatives are talking about?
Our media sucks, they keep pretending that conservatives have a real argument. They don't. It's insane nonsense over and over again.
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As in any negotiations, you get some things you want and you don't get some things you want.... net result, an agreement all parties can live with.
