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Old 07-14-2015, 01:04 PM
 
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Originally Posted by texan2yankee View Post
Uneducated and naive fools support nuclear agreements with liars and cheats, which is no surprise.
Well, let's see who is educated and who isn't. What details of this agreement do you disagree with?
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Old 07-14-2015, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Naturally, but the robbers and murderers don't see it that way.

They think Americans are entitled to cell-phones and video games and everything-a-plenty for dirt cheap, and if people have to be murdered or robbed to get it, that's just fine.

Without Iran's oil profits, Americans would have had to pay 100% of the costs of their interstate highway system, and that just would be totally unfair to Americans to have to pay 100% of the costs.

America was destined to have interstates...it's Interstate Destiny.

Besides, it's more fun to saddle people with ruthless US puppet-dictators and then watch the people get slaughtered, while you steal all of their resources, wealth and Capital.



Or maybe Iran is just defending itself against hostile Western aggression.

The US is ruthless and a terror sponsor, too. Just ask any of the Millions of people in South or Central America who were victims of unwarranted American aggression.

Have any of your pundits or so-called "experts" (snicker) figured out what kind of nuke Iran is allegedly building?

Amused...

Mircea
If not for the constent threat of genocide of USA and Israel, then maybe.
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Old 07-14-2015, 01:13 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Mircea View Post
Naturally, but the robbers and murderers don't see it that way.

They think Americans are entitled to cell-phones and video games and everything-a-plenty for dirt cheap, and if people have to be murdered or robbed to get it, that's just fine.

Without Iran's oil profits, Americans would have had to pay 100% of the costs of their interstate highway system, and that just would be totally unfair to Americans to have to pay 100% of the costs.

America was destined to have interstates...it's Interstate Destiny.

Besides, it's more fun to saddle people with ruthless US puppet-dictators and then watch the people get slaughtered, while you steal all of their resources, wealth and Capital.



Or maybe Iran is just defending itself against hostile Western aggression.

The US is ruthless and a terror sponsor, too. Just ask any of the Millions of people in South or Central America who were victims of unwarranted American aggression.

Have any of your pundits or so-called "experts" (snicker) figured out what kind of nuke Iran is allegedly building?

Amused...

Mircea
AKA oh the horrible capitalists! I mean getting things as cheap as possible is part of corporate capitalism. Its not "Evil Americans!". Watch what China is doing in that area. They aren't doing it for the love of their fellow man.
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Old 07-14-2015, 01:17 PM
 
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Good job Barack. The shoot first and ask questions later caucus is losing another boogie man to stir up its base with. Bibi and Boehner must be kvetshing as we speak.
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Old 07-14-2015, 01:32 PM
 
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AKA oh the horrible capitalists! I mean getting things as cheap as possible is part of corporate capitalism. Its not "Evil Americans!". Watch what China is doing in that area. They aren't doing it for the love of their fellow man.
It's capitalist to saddle foreign sates with ruthless puppet dictators? How is China doing that?
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Old 07-14-2015, 01:44 PM
 
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If Israel takes action they will be held responsible by all the countries that negotiated this deal.
I'm always surprised when people seem to think that Israel is the country that is most nervous of Iran.

Saudi Arabia is Irans big rival since Iraq got wrecked....Israel just makes a good scapegoat to rally the masses in the middle east.
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Old 07-14-2015, 02:05 PM
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How do you think Muslims and Arabs would react if Israel was pacified and proclaimed a victory with this deal? And how long would it take for bombs to rain down on Israel from all sides soon after? The middle east has been nothing for the US but a sharpening stone for our military. Sharpening the blade but wearing down the knife.

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Old 07-14-2015, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Not being a law enforcement professional, I could be wrong,
but it just seems that if you announce a search warrant
three weeks or so before executing it, the evidence isn't
very likely to still be there.

That's if they even allow the inspection after
the three week negotiation.
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Old 07-14-2015, 02:16 PM
 
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I just see so much discussion about this as irrational and nonsensical.

So supposedly this deal will make Saudi Arabia nervous, Why?

When you compare this deal of stopping Iran for 10-15 years from progressing on its nuclear program to the status quo of Iran supposedly constantly working towards a nuclear weapon with economic sanctions that all conservatives initially were against, but that take multiple nations to maintain, who at any moment could say we are going back to trading with Iran because there will be no nuclear weapons deal, I'm trying to see why Saudi Arabia would prefer the status quo over this deal?

Again, the people who oppose this deal don't discuss reality, they don't talk about the status quo, versus this deal and the horrible choices without the deal

They don't talk about how conservatives opposed these sanctions when President Obama first proposed them, that it takes multiple nations to maintain the sanctions, that president Obama was only able to secure those sanctions with these other nations as part of a larger idea that these sanctions would force Iran to the table to negotiate over nuclear weapons.

Which they did,again remember conservatives were against these sanctions said they wouldn't make a difference, but once again conservatives are proven wrong by reality.

So what's the conservative solution?

Nothing. The status quo, war with Iran. I don't understand why we must pretend that conservatives aren't insane. It wastes a lot of time.

We pretend oh they have valid opposition or concerns, but when you take them seriously there is nothing there. I mean nothing at all.
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Old 07-14-2015, 02:16 PM
 
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three weeks or so before executing it, the evidence isn't
very likely to still be there.
The comparison is just relevant.

nuclear residue is not a document that can just get rid of by burning it.

we had nobody in north korea. but we could easily tell they tested a nuclear weapon under ground because of Tremors that it causes.
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