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Old 07-13-2015, 08:19 PM
 
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So the word is coming down that Mexico is a little bit more serious about extraditing El Chapo this time after deciding not to do so last time.

Why in the hell should we take this guy in, prosecute and imprison him here on the American taxpayer dime? He's committed no crimes inside of our borders. He's Mexico's problem to deal with, not ours.
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Old 07-13-2015, 09:14 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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According to Forbes, he's a fugitive from the U.S, justice department, too, for drug trafficking and organized crime and is responsible for supplying heroin to our entire Midwest. We've got a vested interest in recapturing him and keeping him in a security facility which Mexico obviously can't. Extradition Would Have Stopped Mexican Drug Kingpin El Chapo Guzmán From Escaping - Forbes
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Old 07-13-2015, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Perhaps the one time in 1000 where I will agree with you. Where in the Constitution is there any authority given for HW Bush to invade Panama, capture Noriega, and lock him up in a federal pen. Or to for Obama to extradite a Mexican drug purveyor and lock him up in a US prison.

Neither HW nor Barack seem to respect national sovereignty.
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Old 07-13-2015, 09:47 PM
 
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So the word is coming down that Mexico is a little bit more serious about extraditing El Chapo this time after deciding not to do so last time.

Why in the hell should we take this guy in, prosecute and imprison him here on the American taxpayer dime? He's committed no crimes inside of our borders. He's Mexico's problem to deal with, not ours.
We caught him in the United States and sent him to Mexico to imprison. Obviously, he committed crime here. Apparently, they are unable to hold him because he has too much power over there. I would be fine keeping him locked up here. It's like when Jose Medellin took part in a brutal rape and murder of two teen girls in Houston, there was no way in hell Texas was going to let him go back to Mexico for punishment. He and his gang were executed for their crimes, which were horrendous. Had we sent him back to Mexico, he would have been out of jail years ago, free to rape and kill over there or make his way back here. We can't trust the Mexican Federales to hold these people.
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:16 PM
 
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According to Forbes, he's a fugitive from the U.S, justice department, too, for drug trafficking and organized crime and is responsible for supplying heroin to our entire Midwest. We've got a vested interest in recapturing him and keeping him in a security facility which Mexico obviously can't. Extradition Would Have Stopped Mexican Drug Kingpin El Chapo Guzmán From Escaping - Forbes
He's never once been in the Midwest, and there's no evidence that he's ever been in the United States even once.

And we've got no vested interest at all in locking him up here. None whatsoever. He's the boss of the Sinaloa Cartel. The Cartel will still move just as much product with him in Mexico as they will with him being imprisoned here. Locking him up in the United States changes nothing. Just gives us another body to feed, clothe, and imprison on the taxpayer dollar. He's not our problem. He's theirs (Mexico).

Moreover, he's never forced a single American to try drugs.
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We caught him in the United States and sent him to Mexico to imprison. Obviously, he committed crime here. Apparently, they are unable to hold him because he has too much power over there. I would be fine keeping him locked up here. It's like when Jose Medellin took part in a brutal rape and murder of two teen girls in Houston, there was no way in hell Texas was going to let him go back to Mexico for punishment. He and his gang were executed for their crimes, which were horrendous. Had we sent him back to Mexico, he would have been out of jail years ago, free to rape and kill over there or make his way back here. We can't trust the Mexican Federales to hold these people.
I've seen no evidence that he's ever been in the United States.

And you're right, the Mexican Federales can't be trusted to hold him, but they don't need my trust or yours. We're Americans...the Federales aren't our concern.
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:30 PM
 
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He should be extradited to the US and after a prompt miltary trial face a firing squad for directing many murders. Problem solved and not much tax-payer money spent. Swift and strong justice would be a deterrent too.
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:32 PM
 
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He should be extradited to the US and after a prompt miltary trial face a firing squad for directing many murders. Problem solved and not much tax-payer money spent. Swift and strong justice would be a deterrent too.
I don't know if I should laugh or cry. It must be a sarcasm.

Mick
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:35 PM
 
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I don't know if I should laugh or cry. It must be a sarcasm.

Mick
Do whatever you want. He's a foreign-national and international criminal, that does not deserve the rights of a US citizen, really no different than a terrorist.
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:38 PM
 
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He should be extradited to the US and after a prompt miltary trial face a firing squad for directing many murders. Problem solved and not much tax-payer money spent. Swift and strong justice would be a deterrent too.
Who did he murder in this country?

If all of this justice is supposed to be a deterrent like you say, it sure as hell ain't working.

We started a full blown war to get Noriega, and did that stop Escobar or Arrellano from coming to power?
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:44 PM
 
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He's never once been in the Midwest, and there's no evidence that he's ever been in the United States even once.
Not according to this article from the Latin Times (and Univision):

El Chapo Guzman Has California Driver's License; How Did He Obtain It?

You should familiarize yourself as to how the DEA operates. It has international jurisdiction with countries that works with them.
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