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Old 07-14-2015, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Really?

The wealthiest, smartest, most cultured ethnic group in Europe, the Germans, succumbed and found themselves taking a blood oath to a man that was a retired corporal from Austria that couldn't even gain entrance into an art school.

Think about it... accomplished German Field Marshalls in the Prussian Military tradition laid down and took orders from an ex-corporal from a provincial podunk ass country like Austria whose combat experience consisted of running messages from trench to trench in WW1.

Europeans have a history of standing up to elites in power? LMAO...laughable. Europeans have a history of knuckling under to power. Until the French Revolution, they thought swearing an oath to monarchy was noble. Please.

Europe, the land of hereditary succession...where the population could find themselves ruled by a teenager.
Unlike Africa which is clearly a picture of a successful continent. Please, Europe is the most accomplished continent on the planet and the people whose ancestry stem back to that continent have built the civilization you are living in today. America and Canada are extensions of Europe and have taken on the similar laws and customs. South Africa was a 1st world nation when it was run under European customs of law, order, and respect of property rights. It has slipped as it has shifted towards African style mob rule and lawlessness.

Mexico is corrupt and largely lawless. The Mexican government is corrupt and letting Chapo Guzman "escape" just shows how lawless that country is.

 
Old 07-15-2015, 12:07 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Originally Posted by desertdetroiter View Post
Really?

The wealthiest, smartest, most cultured ethnic group in Europe, the Germans, succumbed and found themselves taking a blood oath to a man that was a retired corporal from Austria that couldn't even gain entrance into an art school.

Think about it... accomplished German Field Marshalls in the Prussian Military tradition laid down and took orders from an ex-corporal from a provincial podunk ass country like Austria whose combat experience consisted of running messages from trench to trench in WW1.

Europeans have a history of standing up to elites in power? LMAO...laughable. Europeans have a history of knuckling under to power. Until the French Revolution, they thought swearing an oath to monarchy was noble. Please.

Europe, the land of hereditary succession...where the population could find themselves ruled by a teenager.
Right on, except for your mention of Austria. The Austrian-Hungarian Empire was larger than Germany's when WWI began, and the war began in Serbia, a nation in the Austro-Hungarian empire. The Germans were sucked into the war just like the English- Germany was Austria's long-time ally, and both their Emperors were cousins, as were the Kings of England and Russia, also empires. Prussia was an quasi-independent German state before WWI as were all the states in Germany.

Royalty still ruled Europe when the war broke out. Only a few nations, France among them, were full republics.

But overall, you are correct. In 1914, the year the war broke out, most of the population of Europe were still peasants, and had always knuckled under to authority. Military leadership was a job for nobility. No peasant could ever hope of becoming an officer, much less a commander, in continental Europe, outside of France and the few other exceptions.

The war wiped out the European nobility completely. Kings survived, but all their power was gone, as was the power of the nobility the kings commanded. It was a complete power vacuum, and that allowed peasants like Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, and hundreds of others to seize the reins of power for the first time.

The same thing happened in Mexico, but earlier, and it happened several times. After the Spanish were driven out of power, there was a period of a republic, and then the French seized Mexico and held it for 30 years. The nation was ruled by autocrats, and after the revolution of 1910, Mexico was ruled as a republic for the following 10 years before it fell into a very long civil war.

The Mexican peasants were never able to seize or acquire land from the nobility/landed gentry/local honcho. They still haven't to this day. While we have oligarchs who now control all our money, they have oligarchs who still own all the best land in the nation.

And that's a very large part of the reason why so many move to the north. A Mexican peasant can now buy land, but unless he can acquire enough money, he can never make enough on the marginal soil he owns to buy more.

That's why so many of them have left the country for life in the cities. A Mexican who lives in the city can get ahead through enterprise and hard work, and education.
 
Old 07-15-2015, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Default Why Isn't Mexico Like Canada or the US

Short answer:

Endemic corruption and its incestuous relationship between the state and Catholic church.
 
Old 07-15-2015, 07:03 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, LA
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Short answer:

Endemic corruption and its incestuous relationship between the state and Catholic church.
I read the entire thread, and I was just about to post this. It's pretty odd that it'd be the post prior to this one!
 
Old 07-15-2015, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Sounds to me like we've both been to Mexico more than a handful of times.
 
Old 07-15-2015, 12:42 PM
 
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Short answer:

Endemic corruption and its incestuous relationship between the state and Catholic church.
Thanks
 
Old 07-15-2015, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Makes a note on my calender that today Old Gringo and I actually agreed on something.
 
Old 07-15-2015, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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The Hacienda system during colonization has led to its current significant inequality.
 
Old 07-15-2015, 12:58 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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NATIONAL IQ scores
National IQ Scores - Country Rankings
Canada . . . . . 99
United States .98
Mexico . . . . . 88
. . .
South Korea 106
Japan 105
Italy 102
China 100
Russia 97
Saudi Arabia 84
India 82
Zimbabwe 82
South Africa 77
Liberia 67
North Korea 150 (j/k)
The good news is the mass immigration to the US is bringing ours more inline with Mexico.
 
Old 07-15-2015, 02:06 PM
 
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Originally Posted by desertdetroiter View Post
Really?

The wealthiest, smartest, most cultured ethnic group in Europe, the Germans, succumbed and found themselves taking a blood oath to a man that was a retired corporal from Austria that couldn't even gain entrance into an art school.

Think about it... accomplished German Field Marshalls in the Prussian Military tradition laid down and took orders from an ex-corporal from a provincial podunk ass country like Austria whose combat experience consisted of running messages from trench to trench in WW1.

Europeans have a history of standing up to elites in power? LMAO...laughable. Europeans have a history of knuckling under to power. Until the French Revolution, they thought swearing an oath to monarchy was noble. Please.

Europe, the land of hereditary succession...where the population could find themselves ruled by a teenager.
Yes, the bamboo huts and spears developed by the rest of the world prove how inferior the European's are.
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