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Old 07-16-2015, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Inyokern, CA
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Then switch providers, private companies are doing this , i repeate private companies. Once you give your money to a private institution is no longer yours to command- is theirs, and they can do whatever they want with it. Don't like it;don't give your money to them. All this is just faux anger from conservatives, for the sake of being angry.
Good grief! The conversation is in regard to BO "giving" free internet service to the poor. My address is that "no matter who is engaged to give that free service" the paying customers will pay for that service with an increase in their bill. PERIOD!

In addition, it is the wrong thing to do, will not accomplish anything and will simply add more of the load on the backs of those actually paying their own bills. Giving free stuff to those that should not be given anything and will just put them deeper in the hole of dependence upon government. Now, before you become unglued, I am fully supportive of "LOCAL AREAS" handling their "local" problems ... not Federal Government ...; i.e., handling the needs of those who CANNOT take care of themselves for mental or physical health reasons! I'm not in favor of free handouts, especially from the Federal Government. Only local areas know who is really in need and who is just looking for someone else to take care of them.
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Old 07-16-2015, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Inyokern, CA
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I pray to the lord to give me strength to enlighten the ignorant, but why oh why God, do you make this task so impossible?

Anyway, back to you lorrysd, the thing is well, you paying customers are already paying for it whether this happens or not. So your point is moot, pointless, irrelevant.

Furthermore, if you are going down this path of "Private companies cannot spend their money in ways that I don't approve of....", well you're basically anti-free market.

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You sure don't understand the free-market. So sorry. Won't try to explain facts to you any further, since you don't seem to be able to comprehend.
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Old 07-16-2015, 03:36 PM
 
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Bull! Wonder how my generation managed to get to the moon...we didn't even have electronic devices, let alone computer.

Electronic devices have dumbed down several generations now. If not used correctly and at a mature age, they do far more damage then good.
Spoken like a true Luddite.

We live in the information age and power goes to those who know how to access and make the best use of information, a task that absolutely requires an Internet connection. Middle class kids know their way around the Internet by the time they enter elementary school. If poor kids are to keep up with their middle/upper class peers, they also need to know their way around cyberspace.
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Old 07-16-2015, 03:51 PM
 
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I wish I could say I was amazed at the mean-spiritedness of my fellow POC posters, but, sadly, I'm not. Pretty much what I expect from resident right wingers.
And next, the mean spirited right wingers will say they shouldn't have to pay for gaming systems, cars and swimming pools for the less fortunate.

Phones and internet aren't necessities


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We live in the information age and power goes to those who know how to access and make the best use of information, a task that absolutely requires an Internet connection. Middle class kids know their way around the Internet by the time they enter elementary school. If poor kids are to keep up with their middle/upper class peers, they also need to know their way around cyberspace.
Sure, the last thing we must expect them to do is go to the library and use the free internet and free computers.

When do we start paying to have their food delivered?
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Old 07-16-2015, 04:14 PM
 
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You sure don't understand the free-market. So sorry. Won't try to explain facts to you any further, since you don't seem to be able to comprehend.

Lord, I tried.

Amen.

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Old 07-16-2015, 05:23 PM
 
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Spoken like a true Luddite.

We live in the information age and power goes to those who know how to access and make the best use of information, a task that absolutely requires an Internet connection. Middle class kids know their way around the Internet by the time they enter elementary school. If poor kids are to keep up with their middle/upper class peers, they also need to know their way around cyberspace.
This is true. However, the question is, are people in public housing already buying internet access? Honestly I don't know, but it's a critical question: if they aren't, then this works as you say and it's worth it to familiarize kids growing up there with the internet. If they are however (and I expect so, they have most of their other bills already paid for them and it's a huge life improvement bang for your buck) then it's basically just increased welfare dollars to the already most concentrated recipients, as it just frees up cash for other things.
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Old 07-16-2015, 07:59 PM
 
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I pray to the lord to give me strength to enlighten the ignorant, but why oh why God, do you make this task so impossible?

Anyway, back to you lorrysd, the thing is well, you paying customers are already paying for it whether this happens or not. So your point is moot, pointless, irrelevant.

Furthermore, if you are going down this path of "Private companies cannot spend their money in ways that I don't approve of....", well you're basically anti-free market.
Her point is not moot. People are sick and tired of busting their asses to pay for what they need and want and then pay for freebies for people with their greedy little hands out.

You leftist want equality? Then pay the same as we do.
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Old 07-16-2015, 08:01 PM
 
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Her point is not moot. People are sick and tired of busting their asses to pay for what they need and want and then pay for freebies for people with their greedy little hands out.

You leftist want equality? Then pay the same as we do.
There are a lot of rich leftists too. Oddly they pay more then the average person
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Old 07-16-2015, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Sure am glad we are putting my taxes to good use
The children need internet to keep up in school. If you want these children to grow up non-dependent on entitlements, we have to provide them with an education.
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Old 07-16-2015, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Neither party nor the government in general can fix the problem of poor parenting.
No, policy-making can have an impact, negative or positive. The problem arises when people who can't offer a solution, complain about someone else offering one.
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