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View Poll Results: Who Was More at Fault???
Sandra 32 60.38%
Police 17 32.08%
I can't choose. They are exactly equally at fault. 4 7.55%
Voters: 53. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-26-2015, 10:33 AM
 
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Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
I have to give props elsewhere for bringing this up but the Supreme court ruled on this last session. This was a clear violation of her rights.

Rodriguez V United States ruled that a routine traffic stop can not be anything more than that. That the officer has to address the issue and allow the person to leave.

a traffic stop “can become unlawful if it is prolonged beyond the time reasonably required to complete the [traffic stop] mission.”

Opinion analysis: Traffic stops can

His traffic stop had been completed when he decided to further question her.
He went beyond the call of duty.

Hey, boys and girls - What time is it?

IT'S HOWDY DOODY TIME!

He did his doody for God and Texas.

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Old 07-26-2015, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
I have to give props elsewhere for bringing this up but the Supreme court ruled on this last session. This was a clear violation of her rights.

Rodriguez V United States ruled that a routine traffic stop can not be anything more than that. That the officer has to address the issue and allow the person to leave.

a traffic stop “can become unlawful if it is prolonged beyond the time reasonably required to complete the [traffic stop] mission.”

Opinion analysis: Traffic stops can

His traffic stop had been completed when he decided to further question her.
You left out a chunk of the bolded. Here's how it continues:

... absent a safety related concern or reasonable suspicion to believe that the driver may have committed an additional crime.

It's quite possible that the officer thought Bland was under the influence of something at that time. Or he could say that the cigarette was a safety issue.
 
Old 07-26-2015, 12:35 PM
 
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You left out a chunk of the bolded. Here's how it continues:

... absent a safety related concern or reasonable suspicion to believe that the driver may have committed an additional crime.

It's quite possible that the officer thought Bland was under the influence of something at that time. Or he could say that the cigarette was a safety issue.
The Supreme Court didn't provide for inventions to avoid its restrictions.
 
Old 07-26-2015, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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[/i][/b]It's quite possible that the officer thought Bland was under the influence of something at that time. Or he could say that the cigarette was a safety issue.
OMG Stop already! If he thought she was under the influence he would have told her he was asking her to exit the car so that he could conduct a roadside sobriety test. AND a damn Cigarette is NOT a safety issue.

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Old 07-26-2015, 01:38 PM
 
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OMG Stop already! If he thought she was under the influence he would have told her he was asking her to exit the car so that he could conduct a roadside sobriety test. AND GD Cigarette is NOT a safety issue.
It can be but it wasn't in this instance. This is the standard the courts have set. Where there is a reasonable cause a police officer can make a request to get rid of your cigarette. Being a dick isn't a reasonable cause.
 
Old 07-26-2015, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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It can be but it wasn't in this instance. This is the standard the courts have set. Where there is a reasonable cause a police officer can make a request to get rid of your cigarette. Being a dick isn't a reasonable cause.
sure if you are waving a cigarette around a gas pump, or if you threaten someone with it, but clearly neither of those conditions applied here
 
Old 07-26-2015, 01:50 PM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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This power hungry a--HOLE cop should be fired. Plain and simple to me.
 
Old 07-26-2015, 01:53 PM
 
Location: California
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Default Video shows arrest of woman found hanging in jail

The video means nothing, The cop had nothing to do with her killing herself, she was unstable and she did it to herself, end of story. Just another nut case. Her body, her decision.
 
Old 07-26-2015, 02:38 PM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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The video means nothing, The cop had nothing to do with her killing herself, she was unstable and she did it to herself, end of story. Just another nut case. Her body, her decision.
Yeah...but the cop is a nutjob as well. He's a piece of *%&^ that needs to be fired.
 
Old 07-26-2015, 02:46 PM
 
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Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
I have to give props elsewhere for bringing this up but the Supreme court ruled on this last session. This was a clear violation of her rights.

Rodriguez V United States ruled that a routine traffic stop can not be anything more than that. That the officer has to address the issue and allow the person to leave.

a traffic stop “can become unlawful if it is prolonged beyond the time reasonably required to complete the [traffic stop] mission.”

Opinion analysis: Traffic stops can

His traffic stop had been completed when he decided to further question her.
Wrong as usual.

Your trying to fit a round peg into a square hole with regards to this case.

I suggest you read the entire SCOTUS opinion with regards to this dog sniff case you reference.

Specifically focus on section III, yeah I read it all including the dissenting opinions of Thomas, Alito and Kennedy.
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