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As somebody said upthread, "I don't judge politicians by what they say to get power, but by what they do after gaining power."
As I apparently have to keep reminding people, Nazis gaining power and Nazis in power were two very different creatures. Once the socialist wing was done away with, with about a hundred dead Nazis leaders underlining the point, well - no more socialist nonsense.
Trade Unions? Their offices raided, their funds confiscated, their role supposedly taken over by the 'German Labour Force".
Workers' right to strike? Done away with by law. Can't have the working man getting uppity.
Equal rights for women - that's a good progressive value, right? Hell no. "Kinder, Kirche, Küche", go make some healthy, pure-race babies for the Vaterland. Took Germany much longer to bring women into wartime production, as compared to the Allies.
Internationalism - a main feature of mid-century socialism? Marx did say 'Workers of the World", yes? Not for the Nazis. Grossdeutschland was superior by definition.
The Nazis - when judged by what thy did after gaining power - were very bad at socialism.
Trade unions were outlawed in the Warsaw Pact states behind the Iron Curtain too.
Kim's DPRK, and Castro's Cuba, and Mao's and Qing's and Xi's China track records aren't much better.
For Brezhnev taught that when a nation reaches the pinnacle of socialism, there is no more need of labor unions.
Since we can't go one page in a CD thread without mentioning Hitler or Nazis, let's just lay it all out and get it over with. Was Hitler a conservative or a liberal?.
It's a meaningless question without first defining what's meant by liberal & conservative or rather left vs right.
From a global/20th century perspective, Americans simply have no idea what true left wing politics means. It's all right wing here, as beyond a few social wedge issues there is absolutely no difference between the mainstream left and right in the USA. Yet many get caught up in fighting the false war between the two sides of the same coin, hence this topic.
88 is an abbreviation for "Heil Hitler". No surprise this Confederate flag-waving murderer felt a kinship with Der Fuhrer.
He felt a kinship for a progressive leftist that had Nat. Socialist German Workers Party on the doorbell.
Only progressives like Margaret Sanger--and Democrats like SC capitol flag raiser Ernest Hollings and 95% Brady Campaign-rated Robert Byrd--show up at addresses like that.
Which side of the political spectrum is more likely to complain (loudly) about our increasingly diverse nation? Which side tends to scapegoat minority classes as the root of our nation's ills?
You actually found positives in the Nazi ideology in an earlier post, so it shouldn't be too hard for you to come up with the answers.
Which side of the political spectrum treats Europeans ( in their own country) like the Jews were initially in 1930's Germany? Which side attracts La Rosa, black activist groups and every other ethnic activist group like flies to cow dung? Which side divides people into identity groups and pits one against the other? Which side plays the race card incessantly? Which side wants to make the government bigger, more powerful and dictatorial?
It's a meaningless question without first defining what's meant by liberal & conservative or rather left vs right.
From a global/20th century perspective, Americans simply have no idea what true left wing politics means. It's all right wing here, as beyond a few social wedge issues there is absolutely no difference between the mainstream left and right in the USA. Yet many get caught up in fighting the false war between the two sides of the same coin, hence this topic.
OK, let me phrase it differently then. If the elections were held today, who would Hitler vote for? Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush?
I think Hillary, since she supports the Iran nuclear deal. It is common knowledge that Iran officials have made statements -- on numerous occasions -- that they wish to wipe Israel from the map. As we know, the whole anti-Semitic platform was pretty big with Hitler. Jeb.. I'm not really sure what he stands for. He has spent most of his time trying to distance himself from his brother. I'm not sure if Hitler would have been a fan of Dubya, but I doubt it.
OK, let me phrase it differently then. If the elections were held today, who would Hitler vote for? Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush?
I think Hillary, since she supports the Iran nuclear deal. It is common knowledge that Iran officials have made statements -- on numerous occasions -- that they wish to wipe Israel from the map. As we know, the whole anti-Semitic platform was pretty big with Hitler. Jeb.. I'm not really sure what he stands for. He has spent most of his time trying to distance himself from his brother. I'm not sure if Hitler would have been a fan of Dubya, but I doubt it.
Oh look at the objectivity! So Hitler supported immigration and same sex marriage and health care? But of course your little self has no idea what Jeb stands for, he's just that guy trying not to be George, right?
OK, let me phrase it differently then. If the elections were held today, who would Hitler vote for? Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush?
Neither -- Both Hillary and Jeb are too far to the left ... ...
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