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Not a traditional Republican, but a forerunner of the Tea Party.
I believe the tea party is built upon an anti tax, anti big government base of conservatives. It seems to me that Hitler was very pro government. He nationalized many aspects of the German economy and even developed the gestapo to carry out his agenda, which was essentially a national police force. Please elaborate?
Please elaborate. I think several have articulated their points well as to why Hitler was on the left of the political spectrum. All ideas are welcome here, and if you can craft an argument to back this assertion, we would love to hear it.
I, for one, love and embraces Jews. They're funny, smart, and hard working people. Hate simply isn't a word in my vernacular.
The two prevailing reasons behind the Nazi hatred of Jews is generally agreed by scholars to rest on:
Hitler blaming them for Germany's loss of WW1
Wealth envy
In any case, thank you for your post, and I'm sorry you feel that way.
Your post is the absolute definition of nasty ugliness. What if I were to say is Charles Manson a Republican or a Democrat? He hated blacks but see that's not equivalent since Hitler murdered millions because he equated them as less. Not unlike the way the GOP portrays certain other nationalities. You know, like when Trump says we should have more Europeans come to American instead of Hispanics. See what I did there?
You want to slime along the bottom of the barrel and then say hate is not a word in your vernacular? You are the epitome of it.
Well, there are a lot of debate and many of these are just "opinions"
I agree with the poster who said he was a Nazi because Nazi was truly a very unique term.
Hitler had appeared at a time of national crisis to haul a demoralized Germany off its knees following the inglorious defeat of the First World war and restore its national pride. He brought it through a decade of political instability and ruinous inflation by ruthlessly eliminating the opposition and borrowing far beyond his country's means.
Hitler has been called a shrewd political strategist, but in truth he simply did as he wished and damned the consequences.
I am not trying to defend Hitler in any way, but let's face it, it was not only the fascist leaderships in Spain and Italy who openly admired Germany's ability to get its own house in order, but many European aristocrats who shared Hitler's suspicion of the Jews whom they regarded as having far too much control of the financial infrastructure.
Since we can't go one page in a CD thread without mentioning Hitler or Nazis, let's just lay it all out and get it over with. Was Hitler a conservative or a liberal?
Let's look at the facts:
Hitler liked guns (republicans like guns.)
Hitler liked war (republicans like war.)
Hitler liked a big military (republicans like a big military.)
Hitler was a racist (republicans hate Muslims, South American immigrants, black presidents, and blacks on welfare.)
Hitler was about racism and war, and so are republicans.
Since we can't go one page in a CD thread without mentioning Hitler or Nazis, let's just lay it all out and get it over with. Was Hitler a conservative or a liberal?
I don't think we discuss the political views of Hitler nearly as often as you seem to think we do.
For the record, I don't think simplifying Hitler's political ideology to 'liberal or conservative' is possibly in an intelligent argument.
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Let's look at the facts:
He hated the Jews. Most liberals I know favor Palestine vs Israel.... +1 Liberal
That's not the same thing as hating Jews. It's not even close. Most liberals want a two state solution, and one that benefits both. Seeing as the average conservative is only concerned with Israel getting what it wants, that's not an unreasonable position to hold.
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Why did he hate the Jews? Primarily for their wealth. +1 Liberal
Weak argument. Liberals certainly hate income inequality and will go to some radical lengths to address it (sometimes), but this argument is very much just a desperate grab at the few remaining straws in the bin.
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He was a vegetarian artist/painter... +1 Liberal
He also had a mustache. That's just as relevant as what you've just said.
Also, there's not one conservative vegetarian or artist? Certainly the latter has quite a few, but whatever. You're already inventing facts so at least you've been consistent.
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The full name of the Nazi party is The National Socialist Workers Party.... I think this one speaks for itself.
It really doesn't though when you factor in how much Hitler hated Communism. Or the fact that Socialism wasn't so easily defined back in the day.
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OK, I'm trying to be as fair as possible here and think of reasons that would explain why he is conservative... hmmm
Biggest lie so far, and given the competition, that's quite a big deal.
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He proclaimed to love Germany... he experimented with eugenics to develop his idea of a blue eyed Aryan society... most white areas of the US are conservative.... so +1 Conservative?
He liked dogs. I guess there are a lot of conservatives who like dogs... +0.5 Conservative?
You listed 3 things and gave one point to conservatives... You're bias isn't even kind of hidden.
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Ultimately, it's difficult to fit Hitler in neatly with American politics, but I think the statements above speak for themselves. I consider myself to be unbiased with politics, but Hitler definitely held more political tenets of the left than the right. Unless we're going to start calling guys like Kim Jung Un, head of the Workers' Party of Korea, a card carrying republican too.
I've never seen a bigger bag of **** that this last paragraph, and since I read the entirely of your post leading to this point, that's troubling. This was in no way politically unbiased.
We could go back and forth for eternity on certain things Hitler did that X group also does, but ultimately, it's pointless. Hitler was an authoritarian fascist. That's about it. That's really all you need to know. To compare him to either Republican or Democrats is foolish and without logical reason.
Please elaborate. I think several have articulated their points well as to why Hitler was on the left of the political spectrum. All ideas are welcome here, and if you can craft an argument to back this assertion, we would love to hear it.
Would you? Would you love to hear it? How has anyone articulated why they think Hitler was a Socialist other than to say it? I showed that not only was he not a Socialist, he hated Socialism. I can post numerous links, would you like that? Because you are so open to your venomous ugly nasty ideas? You really are working hard to equate a political party to the murder of millions. Never mind that Hitler was obviously extremely extremely racist = hmm Republicans. Loved war = Republicans. Felt certain people were "superior" (Aryans) to others with darker skin...sound familiar?
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