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Old 07-18-2015, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Well that didn't' take long. The ink isn't even dry on the Iran nuke deal, you know the deal where America from a position of power bent over to appease Iran....

Even after giving Iran everything they want and not even asking them to return the 4 American prisoner they are holding the Iranian leader makes this statement.

Nuclear deal will not change Iran's relations with U.S.: supreme leader



So when will Obama and Kerry learn that giving someone everything they want does not obligate them to like you.
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Old 07-18-2015, 02:37 PM
 
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Can you say that "Death to America" is still the Iranian mantra?
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Old 07-18-2015, 02:39 PM
 
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That's not surprising, considering the history of the last 60 years America had with Iran.

I can't blame the Iranians.
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Old 07-18-2015, 02:53 PM
 
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Like the reestablishment of diplomatic relations with Cuba, I didn't know that the nuclear agreement between China, France, Great Britain, Germany, Russia and the U.S (P5+1). was an agreement for the U.S. and Iran to be besties!
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Old 07-18-2015, 03:04 PM
 
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Countries don't have friends, they have interests. And I have no idea of anyone qualified who thinks Iran got "everything they wanted".
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Old 07-18-2015, 03:09 PM
 
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Like the reestablishment of diplomatic relations with Cuba, I didn't know that the nuclear agreement between China, France, Great Britain, Germany, Russia and the U.S (P5+1). was an agreement for the U.S. and Iran to be besties!
Difference is that negotiation with Cuba was bilateral the Iran deal was multilateral. The rest of the world never stopped trading with Cuba.
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Old 07-18-2015, 03:12 PM
 
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Number 1 Rule about Politics you need to learn.

rhetoric does not matter! Actions Matter.

Iran just did two years of direct Negotiations with U.S. This has been unprecedented since 1980s
when the last lengthy negotiations took place.
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Old 07-18-2015, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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It will take more than this agreement for them to put the death of a million Iranians by gassing, starvation, and munitions by the US supported Saddam Hussein regime behind them. But, it's a start. I hope that in a generation or less we can find the same sort of rapprochement with Iran that we did with Japan. Iran is not a terrorist country - the Sunnis are the terrorists.
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Old 07-18-2015, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Countries don't have friends, they have interests. And I have no idea of anyone qualified who thinks Iran got "everything they wanted".
Neither sides of the debate and finding compromises ever leads to ALL one sided....Some really do NOT understand that premise given Jan 2009..attitude in COngess..declarations basically of WAR on this president...But tho decades of declaring evilness of Iran..The people there are NOT against USA..Only the militant's which..just like in USA..Militant Conservatives scream the loudest..Yike's I'm about deaf listening to such negativity..and Blame games...

Anyway...This is now 21st Century..Monitoring is not of the 20th Century..never mind NO one can HIDE Nuclear residual evidence....IF Iran truly wants to enter the world ( have been isolated for decades/sanctioned/ suffering....meanwhile a whole new generation will NOT allow the severe Right Wing of their Country continue....I always look at thing cup half full versus half-empty....10-25 years may very well mellow and soften those hardliner's...and peace may very well prevail..

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Number 1 Rule about Politics you need to learn.

rhetoric does not matter! Actions Matter.

Iran just did two years of direct Negotiations with U.S. This has been unprecedented since 1980s
when the last lengthy negotiations took place.
Yes!!! ALL sides gave a little ..Politics say "Capitulation"..the world says..BEST results for the world safety....Course..History will tell..

IF Congress with their continued rhetoric's..could actually undue years of multi-lateral negotiations..and lose all other World nations who signed on..Thus..BACK to the way things were back in the 1970's....SMH
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Old 07-18-2015, 03:33 PM
 
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Some context:How many nations has Iran attacked vs. America?
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