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Old 07-19-2015, 05:00 PM
 
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Nobody expected anyone to fly four jets into buildings either. Far feched? Probably, hopefully, but when you consider it we are very exposed.
Agreed.
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Old 07-19-2015, 05:59 PM
 
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Wait a minute, according to some posters on here:

Price of gas going down substantially because of Iran deal!

Huh.

Anyway...


...as others have said, what has happened in other countries won't necessarily happen here because, as stated, we are armed, and there's a whole lot of us who will NOT give up our weapons. Look what happened in....what state was that...CT? When they told the people that they had to bring their guns in to the police station and a good chunk of them pretty much said: "pound sand" ? It was in a liberal state...imagine trying to get the guns out of the hands of those in other liberal states as well as very deeply Conservative states.

It's not going to happen.
It already has happened ...multiple times. All the guns in the hands of citizens did absolutely nothing to stop any of them. Or is the distinction on whether getting shot and perhaps killed by someone called a terrorist or just some other azzhat with a gun all that relevant to the victims? Cripes!

2015 alone:
Mass Shootings in 2015 - Mass Shooting Tracker
Others

27 Deadliest Mass Shootings in U.S. History Fast Facts - CNN.com

https://library.stanford.edu/project...otings-america

A New Report Reveals a Disturbing Trend With Mass Shootings in America - Mic
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Old 07-20-2015, 08:54 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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What's your opinion? Could it happen?

No
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Old 07-20-2015, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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So, ONE recruiting station got attacked. And it's a big deal, with all kinds of response ideas.

There are 1,400.

Think about this. In a concerted action, what if 100 were shot up at once? What if 100 police stations were added to that? And if it happened once a week for a month as copycats and disaffected people joined the fray.

Habeas Corpus would be rescinded, people would be disappeared by govt forces in large numbers, resulting in retaliation attacks on govt forces by outraged citizens. Gun confiscations would be enacted, resulting in widespread unrest and further attacks, resulting in thousands of deaths, tens of thousands of arrests. Military prison camps - which in turn results in guerilla groups forming and attacking govt forces.

Transportation ceases, economy collapses, military is activated, people who don't want to starve are moved to camps, others go underground and join resistance forces. Bandits and gangs hit targets of opportunity. Chaos reigns.

A couple of hundred people, whether muslim fanatics, anti govt or religious patriotic forces, or any capable group could pretty much change the country in a month.

Pretty scary if you think about it.

What's your opinion? Could it happen?
Abso frekin loutly, we are less safe now, then we were before 911 and our government could care less....
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Old 07-20-2015, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Nobody expected anyone to fly four jets into buildings either. Far feched? Probably, hopefully, but when you consider it we are very exposed.

Your OP scenario would have the same result as 9-11 had and that was to just make us mad and for a short time pull the country together. Unless they get real smart and do something that HURTS a vast majority of us at the same time these small target attacks will end up only pissing us off to the point we start bombing the crap out of someone again.....
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Old 07-20-2015, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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There are also over 5,000 movie theaters, 5,000 Walmarts, 300,000 churches and 1,700 Church's. In a concerted action, what if 100 were shot up at once? And if it happened once a week for a month as copycats and disaffected people joined the fray.
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Old 07-20-2015, 09:46 AM
 
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So, ONE recruiting station got attacked. And it's a big deal, with all kinds of response ideas.

There are 1,400.

Think about this. In a concerted action, what if 100 were shot up at once? What if 100 police stations were added to that? And if it happened once a week for a month as copycats and disaffected people joined the fray.

Habeas Corpus would be rescinded, people would be disappeared by govt forces in large numbers, resulting in retaliation attacks on govt forces by outraged citizens. Gun confiscations would be enacted, resulting in widespread unrest and further attacks, resulting in thousands of deaths, tens of thousands of arrests. Military prison camps - which in turn results in guerilla groups forming and attacking govt forces.

Transportation ceases, economy collapses, military is activated, people who don't want to starve are moved to camps, others go underground and join resistance forces. Bandits and gangs hit targets of opportunity. Chaos reigns.

A couple of hundred people, whether muslim fanatics, anti govt or religious patriotic forces, or any capable group could pretty much change the country in a month.

Pretty scary if you think about it.

What's your opinion? Could it happen?
Knock out the power grid and we will find out in short order. Without power you are nothing more than a cave dweller.
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Old 07-20-2015, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Knock out the power grid and we will find out in short order. Without power you are nothing more than a cave dweller.

Now your are getting somewhere!!!!.....
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Old 07-21-2015, 09:23 AM
 
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Well Police Stations are not gun free zones (so it's not going to happen there). Recruiting centers as gun free zones are soft targets (and I hope this changes soon).
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Old 07-21-2015, 11:48 AM
 
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So, ONE recruiting station got attacked. And it's a big deal, with all kinds of response ideas.

There are 1,400.

Think about this. In a concerted action, what if 100 were shot up at once? What if 100 police stations were added to that? And if it happened once a week for a month as copycats and disaffected people joined the fray.

Habeas Corpus would be rescinded, people would be disappeared by govt forces in large numbers, resulting in retaliation attacks on govt forces by outraged citizens. Gun confiscations would be enacted, resulting in widespread unrest and further attacks, resulting in thousands of deaths, tens of thousands of arrests. Military prison camps - which in turn results in guerilla groups forming and attacking govt forces.

Transportation ceases, economy collapses, military is activated, people who don't want to starve are moved to camps, others go underground and join resistance forces. Bandits and gangs hit targets of opportunity. Chaos reigns.

A couple of hundred people, whether muslim fanatics, anti govt or religious patriotic forces, or any capable group could pretty much change the country in a month.

Pretty scary if you think about it.

What's your opinion? Could it happen?
I think it should be fairly obvious that the above has not happened since 9/11 for many reasons. Over and above whatever our security and surveillance systems have managed to stop, the evil doers simply do not have the personnel, equipment and coordination needed for such an undertaking. I would anticipate continued lone wolf attacks for the foreseeable future, as these can be relatively easy to pull off.
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