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Old 07-21-2015, 01:30 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Yawn. except for the part where he did in fact order flags at half staff this 9 pages of nonsense might have a point.

Obama Honors Vets in Speech, Order Flags to Half-Staff - NBC News
The point of this thread is for conservatives to get together and bleat out the same bull**** they've been sickening their brains with for most of the decade now ("Obama HATES America! Obama is a Muslim! Obama is going to transform America and declare martial law any day now!"), and for the rest of us to get together and laugh at them. I find it really funny when they get angry.
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Old 07-21-2015, 01:39 PM
 
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I myself have read on some respectable right wing lunatic blogs that he is going to declare martial law, force you to pray five times a day to Mecca, and turn your kids gay. You should definitely be worried.
You must be confusing it with a crass Left wing satire blog.
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Old 07-21-2015, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Wrong. President Obama did not order flags at half-staff for the late Ms. Houston. That was Governor Christie for flags in New Jersey.

snopes.com: FALSE: Flags Lowered for Whitney Houston

I also read that the US flag is not lowered to half-mast for those in the military killed 'in the line of duty'. Otherwise, that flag would be popping up and down like a jack-in-the-box.
Killed in the line of duty or in action while fighting a war is very different from what happened last Thursday. Even if your assuption is correct did our President bother to explain this to the people? If he did, I missed it. What Trump did on Saturday was tacky and insulting to our vets but at least he explained his reasoning. What President Obama didn't do is more than tacky. It is wrong and an insult to many Americans in my opinion. BTW, I am not going to comment on what you read on snopes, but do remember, they are very one sided and have been found to be wrong more times than you might think.
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Old 07-21-2015, 02:05 PM
 
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I am an immigrant myself, having lived more years outside US than within.

I just don't see the passion and love in Obama for his country. If he holds such contempt for US, he should never have run for office.
As a born and bred real American, I think your interpretation of "passion and love" is superficial in the sense of thinking one's country is the greatest or thinking it can do no wrong. That was the mindset of the last administration and it caused problems.

There is a deeper love of country one can enact to help it reach its ideal goals. To point out its shortcomings and work to fix them. Both are valid and important, but that is where Obama falls. I think Obama loves this country quite a bit, perhaps more now even than when he began as president. We've made some extraordinary progress these past 6 years.
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Old 07-21-2015, 02:05 PM
 
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at least Trump explained his reasoning? oh my... well, just move him into the WH tomorrow.

Obama doesn't need to explain his reasoning.
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Old 07-21-2015, 03:04 PM
 
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I don't think I've ever been so sickened in my life by a politician. After 7 years of this, it actually makes me physically ill to listen to him speak.

If he hasn't made it abundantly clear, Mr. Obama hates white people, he hates the military and most of all, he hates American values. I'm sure he's seething with rage right now after the public finally forced his hand to do the right thing and lower the damn flag to honor our fallen military.
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Old 07-21-2015, 03:09 PM
 
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I don't think I've ever been so sickened in my life by a politician. After 7 years of this, it actually makes me physically ill to listen to him speak.

If he hasn't made it abundantly clear, Mr. Obama hates white people, he hates the military and most of all, he hates American values. I'm sure he's seething with rage right now after the public finally forced his hand to do the right thing and lower the damn flag to honor our fallen military.
Which is again...why he put the flags at half mast? His hatred of the military, and american values?

Seriously?
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Old 07-21-2015, 03:17 PM
 
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I don't think I've ever been so sickened in my life by a politician. After 7 years of this, it actually makes me physically ill to listen to him speak.

If he hasn't made it abundantly clear, Mr. Obama hates white people, he hates the military and most of all, he hates American values. I'm sure he's seething with rage right now after the public finally forced his hand to do the right thing and lower the damn flag to honor our fallen military.
If the worst thing a president can do for a country is get the private sector adding millions of jobs, the public sector losing hundreds of thousands of jobs, the biggest terrorist leaders wiped out with precision and consistency, freedoms extended to more citizens, the most illegals deported by any president, and people finally having to pay for the healthcare they used to freeload off of us with insurance, then I'll take it.

Hyperbolic rhetoric aside, Obama's policies are all very moderately left-of-center, just as Reagan's were moderately right-of-center.
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Old 07-21-2015, 03:17 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Which is again...why he put the flags at half mast? His hatred of the military, and american values?

Seriously?
It only took him 5 days and intense pressure from US Citizens.
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Old 07-21-2015, 03:34 PM
 
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I see where President Obama just ordered the flags at half-mast. He has heard the voices crying out!
John Boehner ordered the flags at the US Capitol lowered this morning at daybreak - Governors in many States had already ordered flags at half-staff. President Stompy-Foot had no choice. He looked like a petulant idiot, once again.

I have no clue why Obama throws these childish tantrums and turns the easy stuff into controversy. He has done this for years and looks like a total fool when public opinion and basic decency forces him to "back down" . It absolutely should never get to the point (as it did yesterday) that the White House Press Secretary has to fumble around for answers on Flags at half staff after the Murder of Military Personnel by a radical Terrorist in the USA at several Military Facilities.
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