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Old 07-22-2015, 09:56 PM
 
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This sounds like the defender of a rapist, attacking the accuser.
How does pointing out a history of dishonesty among the videographer's group equate to defending a rapist?

Is it possible you are just looking for any excuse to take Planned Parenthood down, regardless of its veracity? I am a mind that seeks truth and sniffs out propaganda, regardless of the ideology. This situation smells like propaganda based on the dubious history in other realms.

His friend James O'Keefe made that fake Acorn video that multiple investigations found was a hoax with heavy editing to tell a different story than reality.

Be patient and wait for the evidence.
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Old 07-22-2015, 10:55 PM
 
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I do believe this is one of the most horrible things, I have heard coming from a woman. I can't believe she can live with herself......

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1.4% of abortions in the USA are "late term."
Now we know why and how they probably lied to the women. This is just a horrible story and how long has it been going on.
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Old 07-22-2015, 11:03 PM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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Barbaric behavior has been going on too long. All funds should be stopped from government to this organization. We have a national health plan so they are no longer needed.
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Old 07-23-2015, 12:46 AM
 
Location: North America
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This country has completely lost its moral and ethical belief systems.
It never had one.
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Old 07-23-2015, 08:50 AM
 
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How does pointing out a history of dishonesty among the videographer's group equate to defending a rapist?

Is it possible you are just looking for any excuse to take Planned Parenthood down, regardless of its veracity? I am a mind that seeks truth and sniffs out propaganda, regardless of the ideology. This situation smells like propaganda based on the dubious history in other realms.

His friend James O'Keefe made that fake Acorn video that multiple investigations found was a hoax with heavy editing to tell a different story than reality.

Be patient and wait for the evidence.
And you say you aren't a left leaner..lmao. Nothing was proven false in those videos by O'Keefe. Those people did say and do what the videos said. People lost their jobs because it was true. This PP stuff is also true. It seems you agree with the Left that the people who did the video should be investigated and prosecuted? Funny stuff...
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Old 07-23-2015, 09:30 AM
 
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I sometimes think you all are so eager for a political score that you accept whatever sounds good without digging to see if it's true.
These people are saying what they are saying. This woman is haggling for the price of baby parts over lunch and making jokes about getting a Lamborghini. You're suggesting it's out of context?
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Old 07-23-2015, 09:42 AM
 
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And you say you aren't a left leaner..lmao. Nothing was proven false in those videos by O'Keefe. Those people did say and do what the videos said. People lost their jobs because it was true. This PP stuff is also true. It seems you agree with the Left that the people who did the video should be investigated and prosecuted? Funny stuff...
That's simply not true:
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Independent investigations were made by state attorneys general of Massachusetts and California, and the U.S. Attorney of Brooklyn, New York; their reports were released beginning in December 2009 and extending through April 2010. The attorney general's office in Massachusetts and the U.S. Attorney for Brooklyn concluded that the ACORN workers had committed no criminal activity and that the videos were "heavily edited" to create a misleading impression of their activities.

The California Attorney General granted immunity to O'Keefe and Giles in exchange for their raw videos shot at three California ACORN offices. Its comparison of the raw videos with the released versions found that the published videos had been heavily edited to misrepresent the workers and the situations so as to suggest criminal intent and activity.

The AG's Report noted that "O’Keefe stated he was out to make a point and to damage ACORN and therefore did not act as a journalist objectively reporting a story", and because the Giles-O'Keefe criminal plans were a ruse, the ACORN workers could not be complicit in them. It found no evidence of intent by the employees to aid the couple.
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Old 07-23-2015, 09:55 AM
 
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I think it's pointless to get worked up over this. Abortions are not going away. Period. It is here to stay because it is something that is seen as "progress" (whether you agree with that premise or not). Just like gay rights is here to stay, just like slavery is gone, just like segregation is gone, and many other things. Whether you agree that some of these things are good or bad is irrelevent because they have become legal/illegal in the eyes of the law, and accepted/unaccepted in the eyes of society. Why get worked up about it if you're for it OR against it? Just move on.
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Old 07-23-2015, 10:06 AM
 
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No, both the long and short versions were debunked. I'm not defending selling baby parts for profit if that's what's happening, but the lies and manipulations used to tell this story is not evidence of it.
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Old 07-23-2015, 10:09 AM
 
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Deny, deflect and disparage. The left is in full panic mode this time, with all three of their favorite "debating" tactics on open display.

But it is not working.
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