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First of all, not a place for fox news parrots. Please go away if you think Rush Limbaugh and his 4 marriages and divorces is some kind of modern day prophet of god.
For years, I've been wondering about this. Why do other liberals downplay the fact that 73% of black children are born out of wedlock and into poverty? Every time I bring this up, people around me just try to hush me or label me a racist. How can we hope to solve a problem when we aren't even willing to admit the problem exists?
Isn't it a fact that the black population suffers the most from poverty? Isn't it a fact that black youths as a whole score the least on national tests like the SAT's and ACT's? Isn't it also a fact that 1 out of 3 black men have been incarcerated? Doesn't anyone aside from myself think all of these negative things are directly related to the fact that 73% of black kids are born without fathers?
First of all, not a place for fox news parrots. Please go away if you think Rush Limbaugh and his 4 marriages and divorces is some kind of modern day prophet of god.
For years, I've been wondering about this. Why do other liberals downplay the fact that 73% of black children are born out of wedlock and into poverty? Every time I bring this up, people around me just try to hush me or label me a racist. How can we hope to solve a problem when we aren't even willing to admit the problem exists?
Isn't it a fact that the black population suffers the most from poverty? Isn't it a fact that black youths as a whole score the least on national tests like the SAT's and ACT's? Isn't it also a fact that 1 out of 3 black men have been incarcerated? Doesn't anyone aside from myself think all of these negative things are directly related to the fact that 73% of black kids are born without fathers?
Correlation is not causation. We've all met kids that were clearly better off without their fathers.
But I do think that there is a real stability problem that is associated with poverty. An upper-middle-class single mom has the money to pay for adequate day care, for better schooling, for counseling, a decent house in a good neighborhood, for music and art lessons, for extra-curricular sports, etc. These things are not available to a minimum-wage single mom. Actually, they are not readily available to a two-parent minimum-wage household either.
It's not wholly a black problem either, you will see the same issues in any poverty pocket. There's a vicious cycle aspect of this, because once it starts, all these problems feed into and magnify each other. My personal opinion is that helping the kids is the most efficient way to break this cycle.
Edited to add - I think liberals are very sensitive to blaming this on being black. For historical reasons, there is a higher poverty rate among blacks. Some people ignore this in order to claim that black people are somehow inherently inferior. When the reality is that any poor kid has huge obstacles to overcome. Yes, exceptional kids can and do make it in the face of these obstacles. But that leaves a lot of kids out of the game.
Correlation is not causation. We've all met kids that were clearly better off without their fathers.
But I do think that there is a real stability problem that is associated with poverty. An upper-middle-class single mom has the money to pay for adequate day care, for better schooling, for counseling, a decent house in a good neighborhood, for music and art lessons, for extra-curricular sports, etc. These things are not available to a minimum-wage single mom. Actually, they are not readily available to a two-parent minimum-wage household either.
It's not wholly a black problem either, you will see the same issues in any poverty pocket. There's a vicious cycle aspect of this, because once it starts, all these problems feed into and magnify each other. My personal opinion is that helping the kids is the most efficient way to break this cycle.
I agree that this is a problem that we often find in poverty stricken communities. But 73%? The next one down is the hispanic community, and even then their percentage is 53% or so. The asian community has just as many poor people as any other community, and the number of children born without fathers in that community is 17%.
Something else is at play here. I'm not sure what.
Are you disputing any of the things I pointed out? Or are you just blanket labeling "racist" to anyone dare to bring up this issue?
Look at the correlation of poverty instead of race, and you will see that many of the things you discuss are far more correlated to being poor, then to anything else.
Even worse is multi-generational poverty becomes VERY self reinforcing.
I agree that this is a problem that we often find in poverty stricken communities. But 73%? The next one down is the hispanic community, and even then their percentage is 53% or so. The asian community has just as many poor people as any other community, and the number of children born without fathers in that community is 17%.
Something else is at play here. I'm not sure what.
Sorry i am conservative but want to join in.
When you start a cycle of a lack of nuclear family or at least having both a father figure and mother figure in a childs life you go down the road to crime, a lack of education and poverty. When it happens for multiple generations it makes it even worse.
When you have large groups of people whos money earner is the federal goverment and not dad you take away self pride. It is sad when statements like "first to college" or "first to own a home" are life or generations accomplishments. Its great that they got there but they shouldn't be their familes first.
It should be expected to go to college and own homes. To have good paying jobs. Other groups of immigrants expect more and such demand more.
It is a shame what has happened to a great number of what should be a great race of people in the black community. Please dont read that wrong. Its not racist. Theres been great immigrant groups to this country who have taken their place on top and dominated the american society over different times. The black community should have had a long time at that spot and its a shame that didnt happen. It seams the hispanic community is pushing to be next in that line of dominance.
I agree that this is a problem that we often find in poverty stricken communities. But 73%? The next one down is the hispanic community, and even then their percentage is 53% or so. The asian community has just as many poor people as any other community, and the number of children born without fathers in that community is 17%.
Something else is at play here. I'm not sure what.
Well, the poverty answer makes the most sense to me.
The thing is, the immigrants and first-generation people I've known had/have the belief that if they work hard, they can better themselves. Their background and experience has been that effort is rewarded more often than not.
For black people, that hasn't been generally true. It can take more than one generation to leave an ingrained attitude behind. Anyone who has ever struggled with chronic feelings of inadequacy knows that it can take a herculean effort to overcome them. Imagine how much harder it is when those feelings are daily reinforced, frequently brutally, by the people whose socioeconomic class you are trying to join.
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