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Mia Love was propped up by the Tea Party to make them look inclusive instead of a bunch of bigoted know-nothing fools.
The sooner my party (GOP) is rid of the Tea Party the sooner we can go back to having a Congress that works and debates and governs for all of the United States. If we're lucky maybe they will even take The Donald along with them on their way out the door. We will get more women and minorities through moderation and centrist policies than we will by showing off people like Love, West, Cruz, Carson, etc who alienate large portions of their ethnic/racial groups with extremist beliefs.
hahahah!
so the republican party will get more inclusive by kicking minorities out of the party!
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your point is a non point.
clearly democrats consistently do this. if some leftist were to post that here it would be no different from a fish posting they like water.
now someone who is not a liberal (I assume a republican) has decided to use your argument. and now you are saying its wrong to say its wrong when those who are saying are saying its right???? that's nuts .
My point is relevent to the discussion seeing as the OP and many other republicans have made the argument that doing so is wrong and are there for hypocrites.
As for ,"the argument" itslef. I have stated multiple times that the color of a candidate does not matter to me, it is who best represents me ideals.
so in short, I have always called it wrong where as yourside only thinks its wrong when the left side of the aisle does it.
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Now lets try to talk about what is real.
1. Democrats say that force by government should be used to create space for democrats to be elected based on their race because its for the "greater good" for minority (I assume liberal) voices to be heard.
Democrats and Republicans have made that claim(as my link shows), but it isnt for Democrats to be elected, it is for the electorate in that area to elect who best represents them regardless of party or race of the candidate.
but that is off subject, remember my post was about the OP supporting a candidate because of the color of her skin, while also saying that its wrong for Democrats to.
That is hypocritical.
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2. Republicans say that it is a good and necessary thing for there to be minority Republican voices elected.
The difference is (and im typing slowly so all the progressives can follow) is that Republicans are NOT arguing for the force to be used by government to create districts for minority republicans.
1. this isnt instant messaging, no one can tell how slow you are typing.
2. The "difference" you speak of is a non point(to use your phrase) as there are no areas where minorities lean republican, there for no district to create.
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In fact, the Republican argument is that Republicans are better by being supportive of minority conservatives.
Im sure you meant something different there than you typed, but of course your party is better at supporting conservatives of all colors seeing as the Democratic party nationally is to the left and so are a majority of constituents.
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I still bet the difference is lost on most members of the left.
You are arguing principle over ability even though ability isnt really an option, so we dont know what would happen if there was a majority minority republican district.
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you have compared dead fish and ice cream and called the ice cream a hypocrite.
I have no idea what you are trying to say here, but the hypocrite in this situation is the republican posting as he has said supporting a candidate because of the color of their skin is wrong as have many more.
Arguing that Democrats do it to is the definition of being a hypocrite.
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Thank you dsjj for proving my point.
you don't get it. its probably not possible.
Republicans reject government interjection. THAT has always been the issue.
This isnt about government injection.
The OP is against Democrats voting for and supporting someone just because of the color of their skin, the OP then did a 180 and now supports someone because of the color of her skin.
Its you who doesnt get it.
you are trying to dodge that discussion and start one about a subject that I already told you I dont agree with.
And again, Republicans support packing black people into districts as well, as my link shows.
Wow.. in 2014 Mia's money came overwhelmingly from out-of-state. Only 1,000 of her 19,000 contributors were from Utah.
"Republican congressional candidate Mia Love's hefty $1.5 million fundraising haul in the past three months includes contributions from more than 19,000 individual donors — including nearly 18,000 from outside Utah.
The OP is against Democrats voting for and supporting someone just because of the color of their skin, the OP then did a 180 and now supports someone because of the color of her skin.
Its you who doesnt get it.
you are trying to dodge that discussion and start one about a subject that I already told you I dont agree with.
And again, Republicans support packing black people into districts as well, as my link shows.
the heck it isn't.
what democrats say is substantively different from what republicans say.
Republicans may say that its good to have minority voices in the party. That is not the same thing democrats say that republicans take issue with. I know you are s m r t enough to know that.
Democrats say government needs to force the creation.
THAT is NOT the republican view. nor is it the position of the OP.
Yup, when opposed by Republicans, the backbencher can pull two landslides. Sad.
Mick
Tells you about the stupidity of the American voter, doesn't it. Gruber was right.
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