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Old 03-13-2016, 07:25 AM
 
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You apparently are either not reading closely enough or are allowing your disbelief to distort what you are inferring from my posts.

Liberals do "violence by proxy". When the BLM/OWS/Soros Funded groups finally overstep their bounds once and for all, WE will not be fighting the police or other security forces because we ARE the police and security forces.

Do you think that the Safe Space Crusaders and other borderline anarchist filth attempting to bring down our republic via the destruction of free speech actually have any ability to physically back up their ideas? Hell no! They survive solely because the rest of civil society either A) protects them (police, military, fire, legal apparatus) or B) silently ignores their nonsense while going about their lives.

Since you currently picture me as a self-styled miltia crusader, I'll try to clear this up with an example.

Take OWS. They " took over" Zuccotti Park for a few months by non-violent means not because anyone aggrieved by their possession of the place agreed with them, but rather because A) the cops surrounded them effectively ensuring that no opposition could harrass them and B) the people of the area tried their best to ignore them.

Now say the silent majority has decided "Enough!" when BLM- and OWS- types decide to attempt a takeover of say Battery Park.

The police don't show up to "community police" and negotiate. The local public decides they will not stand for filthy anti-American scum encamped within view of their children. The losers are told to leave, NOW, by both the security apparatus which has so far allowed their deviancy to exist via tacit protection, and the locals who've prepared and are willing to physically remove them. What happens now?

You should be happy that the silent majority has taken this fight to the political sphere rather than via the tactics of the Soros-back leftist terror groups we are responding to. Your only beef with me is that I've said things. Imagine if we decide to respond accordingly with similar tactics.
Organized protest is protected free speech under the constitution. OWS their concerns have many concerns that the majority of Americans hold or now hold. How do we know what the silent majority believes unless they convey it. How do you know you know the silent majorities views when you dismiss what so many others are saying ?

 
Old 03-13-2016, 07:38 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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The left is much more violent than the right. That is a fact.
Absolutely. Just look at their various revolutions. And as witnessed here, they don't like it when we start waking up. They fear the day we resort to their tactics because they know that we alone have been protecting them all these years.
 
Old 03-13-2016, 07:41 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Organized protest is protected free speech under the constitution. OWS their concerns have many concerns that the majority of Americans hold or now hold. How do we know what the silent majority believes unless they convey it. How do you know you know the silent majorities views when you dismiss what so many others are saying ?
Answer: Trump.

Just stop, it's too easy. We've awoken. We won't be silenced via the typical tactics anymore. As the republican establishment has learned, you either deal with us or get steamrolled. Soon the dems will learn the same. Dismissing us will no longer do. We have found a standard bearer and have come to collect our debts.
 
Old 03-13-2016, 07:44 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Airborneguy View Post
You apparently are either not reading closely enough or are allowing your disbelief to distort what you are inferring from my posts.

Liberals do "violence by proxy". When the BLM/OWS/Soros Funded groups finally overstep their bounds once and for all, WE will not be fighting the police or other security forces because we ARE the police and security forces.

Do you think that the Safe Space Crusaders and other borderline anarchist filth attempting to bring down our republic via the destruction of free speech actually have any ability to physically back up their ideas? Hell no! They survive solely because the rest of civil society either A) protects them (police, military, fire, legal apparatus) or B) silently ignores their nonsense while going about their lives.

Since you currently picture me as a self-styled miltia crusader, I'll try to clear this up with an example.

Take OWS. They " took over" Zuccotti Park for a few months by non-violent means not because anyone aggrieved by their possession of the place agreed with them, but rather because A) the cops surrounded them effectively ensuring that no opposition could harrass them and B) the people of the area tried their best to ignore them.

Now say the silent majority has decided "Enough!" when BLM- and OWS- types decide to attempt a takeover of say Battery Park.

The police don't show up to "community police" and negotiate. The local public decides they will not stand for filthy anti-American scum encamped within view of their children. The losers are told to leave, NOW, by both the security apparatus which has so far allowed their deviancy to exist via tacit protection, and the locals who've prepared and are willing to physically remove them. What happens now?

You should be happy that the silent majority has taken this fight to the political sphere rather than via the tactics of the Soros-back leftist terror groups we are responding to. Your only beef with me is that I've said things. Imagine if we decide to respond accordingly with similar tactics.
I refute your assertion that you are indicative of the silent majority. I assert your sufficiently self isolated from the ideology of the majority of Americans. The majority of Americans do not accept positons like you share or the interpretation of what the constituion protects. Protest is protected free speech in the public space. The majority of Americans beliefs often change but the so called silent majority are the slowest to understand. The silent majority you refer to are who ? How do you know what they believe ? The majority of persons who you believe are on your side what do they belive about gay marriage for example ?
 
Old 03-13-2016, 07:46 AM
 
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Answer: Trump.

Just stop, it's too easy. We've awoken. We won't be silenced via the typical tactics anymore. As the republican establishment has learned, you either deal with us or get steamrolled. Soon the dems will learn the same. Dismissing us will no longer do. We have found a standard bearer and have come to collect our debts.
So your solution to making America great is elimnating the very rights that made America great in the first place. Cause you dont agree with them.
 
Old 03-13-2016, 07:48 AM
 
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Absolutely. Just look at their various revolutions. And as witnessed here, they don't like it when we start waking up. They fear the day we resort to their tactics because they know that we alone have been protecting them all these years.
Facts please, left wing groups have killed how many vs right wing groups since 9/11 ? But I respectfully ask you to elaborate on your fear that the liberal agenda wins. What would that mean, what would be the mechanism of that success and the inevitable response by true patriots that will defend the constitution? If Trump loses thru democratic means, I don't know if you will accept it. If Trump won the general I would accept it, not agree, but respect the majority has spoken. If Trump lossed you would see it as a conspiracy of Liberal and racialist interests right ?

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Old 03-13-2016, 07:58 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Facts please, left wing groups have killed how many vs right wing groups since 9/11 ? But I respectfully ask you to elaborate on your fear that the liberal agenda wins. What would that mean, what would be the mechanism of that success and the inevitable response by true patriots that will defend the constitution?
Sorry, I don't play the demand game either. What does 9/11 have to do with any of this as a starting point anyway? I mention leftist revolutions and you retort with 9/11? What's next? You gonna mention lone white psycho gunmen? We are talking about governments here. Keep up and stop obsfucating.

You've either just crawled out from under a rock or are completely ignoring all political discourse going on currently in this country if you need to have me answer the questions you posed in your last few posts.

Refer to any of our multitude of political commentators from all across the spectrum if you need to have my positions regarding the silent majority reiterated by a more "properly positioned" source.
 
Old 03-13-2016, 08:09 AM
 
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The left is much more violent than the right. That is a fact.
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Originally Posted by Airborneguy View Post
Sorry, I don't play the demand game either. What does 9/11 have to do with any of this as a starting point anyway? I mention leftist revolutions and you retort with 9/11? What's next? You gonna mention lone white psycho gunmen? We are talking about governments here. Keep up and stop obsfucating.

You've either just crawled out from under a rock or are completely ignoring all political discourse going on currently in this country if you need to have me answer the questions you posed in your last few posts.

Refer to any of our multitude of political commentators from all across the spectrum if you need to have my positions regarding the silent majority reiterated by a more "properly positioned" source.
I am not making demands, I am asking you questions to see how much depth your positions have. I used the date 9/11 cause its not that long ago. Left wing revolutions you mention ? Like the French Revolution, and American revolutions ? Or would you label the US revolution as a right wing one ? You also disregard the victories of protest in this country, like womans suffrage, the civil rights movement. I did not place demands on you. I asked you questions that Im sure you have been thinking about these issues for five years lets hear the details. You have the stage all to yourself. I suspect you dont have any response just more slogans and empty jargon. Your a blowhard just like your standard bearer. And potentially very dangerous and self deluded. But there is still hope. Join me in doing volunteer work in a charity you respect like with veterans. Help them and help America non violently instead of coming home from work and listening and reading what you do that only fuels your alienation from the true majority of the country that is moving further away from your positions. And that goes for all of you Trump Supporters.

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Old 03-13-2016, 08:37 AM
 
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Trump tweeted that maybe his supporters should go to Bernie Rallies basically in a challenge. Here is your chance guys, he is using his dog whistle to mobilize his flock into action. Heres your chance at unarmed non violent free speech in protest. Will you guys answer the call. Emperor Trump is summoning you all to service. Will you head the cause of freedom ? Oh boy lets enjoy this train wreck. Airborne willing to protest unarmed and accept police protection ? But again Sanders supporters are mostly woman and teenagers and old hippies so maybe you will roll in like your Rambo.
 
Old 03-13-2016, 09:05 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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I personally have no interest in subjecting myself to the presence of lefist scum. They can have their gatherings in peace. Rather, you should be exhorting them to offer the same to Trump's supporters.

Only one group is stifling free speech here. Only one group is illiciting violence and using it. Take issue with my willingness to return the favor, but recognize that only one group has so far done so.

The media and his challengers may think we are stupid enough to blame ourselves for such savagery, but they are simple clawing in last ditch desperation at anything to slander us. We know were the trouble lies and we are organizing to confront it.
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