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Exactly. Liberals understand 100% what they are doing. Calling them stupid to write them off is a disastrous tactic.
The European Socialist takeover of the US that they imagined decades ago is moving along just fine. This is why we cannot ever reason or compromise with them. They are enemies of the state and should be treated as such.
Compromise to a leftist means you do it their way.
I think Trump is very intelligent, but I strongly believe that he cares about himself much more than his followers.
Liberals and Conservatives analyze issues from different starting points, so it's no surprise that they reach different conclusions. For Conservatives, the emphasis is more on personal security while for Liberals, compassion is probably stronger. Therefore, the Liberal will be more likely to desire gun control to avoid tragedies befalling others while Conservatives will feel more of a need to protect themselves with each new mass shooting incident.
It's the same with immigration. Liberals probably identify more with the plight of immigrants themselves while Conservatives are more likely to worry about the consequences their arrival may bring.
There are some areas the groups can agree on though, and in a lot of ways, the rise of Trump and Sanders is two sides of the same coin -- although again, one more focused on fear than the other.
How do you suggest liberals be defeated if insulting their intelligence is not the way?
I've found it difficult since their supporters have such strong emotional ties to them and such visceral hatred of the GOP
Well one of my ideas I'll leave to the imagination...
But my point is that simply calling them stupid and thinking that's the end of it won't work. We need to educate those who are on the fence not from the point of "they're just dumb" but with info that proves they are enemies of the American way of life who need to be push back against relentlessly.
For example, I talk about firearms constantly. That botherd some people. So what? Keep throwing it in theur faces, educate those who can be educated to the facts about the false mantra of "gun violence" and eventually some people will see our side. Libbies are unreasonable "outrage"-driven nut jobs. Reasonable people eventually see this if given the proper information regarding key topics of the liberal agenda to destroy America.
Indeed, and it's reaching excessive speeds. I was not saying democrats/liberals are dumb btw, just to clarify that.
I myself use to be quite left for a long time. I know others who were exactly like me. I guess times change people ? That or some people can see through agendas.
Europe itself has become ultra-liberal. Truth be told, 3/4 European women (who travel back and forth. From UK, Swe and NED) I spoken with about a certain topic had told me they almost were raped back home, that it's very real. That issue appears to be a epidemic over there.
Yup, the religion of peace will not relent until it has taken over Europe, and the libbies in charge there seem hell-bent on helping them do it.
Indeed, and it's reaching excessive speeds. I was not saying democrats/liberals are dumb btw, just to clarify that.
I myself use to be quite left for a long time. I know others who were exactly like me. I guess times change people ? That or some people can see through agendas.
Europe itself has become ultra-liberal. Truth be told, 3/4 European women (who travel back and forth. From UK, Swe and NED) I spoken with about a certain topic had told me they almost were raped back home, that it's very real. That issue appears to be a epidemic over there.
As one example of how insane US policy currently is, we are not only failing to restrict or limit Muslims' entry into America but rather facilitating it and funding it (in the most recent appropriations bill) with the refugee resettlement programs. A bill to restrict resettling refugees from Syria and Iraq was just blocked last week by the Democrats.
If someone paid me to run the country into the ground and gave me cart blanche, I wouldn't be able to do nearly as good a job as our 'leaders' are currently doing.
Well one of my ideas I'll leave to the imagination...
But my point is that simply calling them stupid and thinking that's the end of it won't work. We need to educate those who are on the fence not from the point of "they're just dumb" but with info that proves they are enemies of the American way of life who need to be push back against relentlessly.
For example, I talk about firearms constantly. That botherd some people. So what? Keep throwing it in theur faces, educate those who can be educated to the facts about the false mantra of "gun violence" and eventually some people will see our side. Libbies are unreasonable "outrage"-driven nut jobs. Reasonable people eventually see this if given the proper information regarding key topics of the liberal agenda to destroy America.
I don't disagree with your approach but, in my experience, a very substantial percentage of left leaning voters are so wedded to their ideology that trying to reason with them is a complete waste of time (assuming it's even possible which, in many cases, it's not).
Are you expecting Trump (or the GOP nominee if it's someone else) to win in November? I would like to see that but think the electoral odds are still in HRC's favor.
I think Trump is very intelligent, but I strongly believe that he cares about himself much more than his followers.
Liberals and Conservatives analyze issues from different starting points, so it's no surprise that they reach different conclusions. For Conservatives, the emphasis is more on personal security while for Liberals, compassion is probably stronger. Therefore, the Liberal will be more likely to desire gun control to avoid tragedies befalling others while Conservatives will feel more of a need to protect themselves with each new mass shooting incident.
It's the same with immigration. Liberals probably identify more with the plight of immigrants themselves while Conservatives are more likely to worry about the consequences their arrival may bring.
There are some areas the groups can agree on though, and in a lot of ways, the rise of Trump and Sanders is two sides of the same coin -- although again, one more focused on fear than the other.
Liberals claim compassion as what they're trying to achieve so they can swindle their voters but there is nothing compassionate about their philosophy.
For liberals, the objective is control. They're savvy enough not to outright say 'we want all your guns, all your income, the elimination of all private insurers, etc.' but there's little ambiguity (at least to me) in terms of what their goals are.
They support open borders b/c they know those who are entering the country are unskilled, unassimilated and, according to research, likely to vote democratic to the tune of 4:1 or more. If those entering the country were predominantly coming from communist countries and research indicated the new immigrants would overwhelmingly support the GOP, Democrats would build the most secure border in the history of mankind. It's just a power grab.
Liberals know the consequences (on wages, etc.) of flooding the countries with new immigrants, but still support their entry knowing that they're likely to become (D) voters.
Liberals claim compassion as what they're trying to achieve so they can swindle their voters but there is nothing compassionate about their philosophy.
For liberals, the objective is control. They're savvy enough not to outright say 'we want all your guns, all your income, the elimination of all private insurers, etc.' but there's little ambiguity (at least to me) in terms of what their goals are.
They support open borders b/c they know those who are entering the country are unskilled, unassimilated and, according to research, likely to vote democratic to the tune of 4:1 or more. If those entering the country were predominantly coming from communist countries and research indicated the new immigrants would overwhelmingly support the GOP, Democrats would build the most secure border in the history of mankind. It's just a power grab.
Liberals know the consequences (on wages, etc.) of flooding the countries with new immigrants, but still support their entry knowing that they're likely to become (D) voters.
I was referring to the electorate, not the politicians. I agree that politicians of both parties are primarily concerned with winning. The average Liberal voter is not looking to increase the party's voter base. But they will look out for their own interests anyway, so would tend to believe that immigrants are not responsible for downward pressure on their (own) wages. They are more likely to think that stagnating wages are the result of the rise of pay at the top-rungs of corporate America, general money-hording by corporations and the breakdown of the social contract.
Many of Trump supporters are concerned about the same issues of wage stagnation, but blame those at the bottom rather than the top. They fear those they consider the "other" so deny that they have common interests and have until recently believed the trickle down nonsense fed to them by their own party elites. They now have a new champion in Trump but it's just another billionaire looking out for himself and his own and using the working class Conservatives one more time. And they are eating it up and falling in line no matter what he says or does. Will the Republican party even be viable after Trump is through with it? Alienating a growing majority of the American electorate will do long-lasting damage to the already weak Republican brand. Trump doesn't care.
Perfect example of why liberals need to be eradicated from society.
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