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Old 01-28-2016, 08:48 AM
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And regarding fear, in case anyone lacks actual experience:

Conservatives Scare More Easily Than Liberals, Say Scientists | WIRED

I mean ... this is basically widely known. Especially true now.


The tendency to see the world as out to get you, to be invading your house and tying up your wife, to disproportionately focus on rare risks and to be trying to gyp you all the time is a trait that frequently leads to gun fetishism.


But while we have gun-clutchers like Airborne who can't go to the bathroom without his Glock I'm no more enamored of the continual intellectually dishonesty of liberals who'd rather live in a PC pretend correct world of word police than address actualities. Both are insane.


If more people would ditch party registration, which just reinforces the rotten concreted two party crony system and is an embarrassing admission of "I'm not going to think about this", ..... if they voted critically, not just in simple-minded lockstep every election, we'd be in a better condition.


The binary mindset perpetuates it too.... (like "everyone who doesn't agree gun rights should be unfettered is a liberal", "everyone who thinks abortion is a pretty darn awful thing is a republican"....).


As for Trump, its great he's can't be controlled by the party. Its shaking up the moribund, stagnant state US democracy. But of course he has no actual concrete ideas, its all just "how great I'm going to be and you're going to feel if I'm president". Which will be true for the first 2 or 3 days of his presidency for those people voting for him. Then buyer's remorse will set in.

 
Old 01-28-2016, 09:10 AM
 
Location: West Harlem
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Thinking critically is what led me to the understanding that liberalism is anti-American filth unworthy of my time. I regularly read drivel (Huffpo and such) to keep up on enemy tactics, but more advanced liberal literature is no longer something I am willing to waste time with.
In fact, classical liberalism is the most significant foundation of your country and a basic context for the constitution as a document.

Odd not to know this. Likely the reason for embracing the not-quite-it ideas.
 
Old 01-28-2016, 09:34 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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I love classic liberalism. In fact it is one of my favorite topics to read, especially the biographies of its most prominent figures from the Age of Enlightenment. I find immense enjoyment in the study of that time period. I'm actually quite prone to dubbel-fueled lively discussions regarding the impact of the Defenestration of Prague on modern politics.

The European-socialist liberalism of today in no way resembles the ideology of that time when man once and for all crawled out of the morass of ancient thought.

Like I said earlier, one does themselves a disservice when labeling their opposition as simply unintelligent and uneducated. As you should know by now, I'm not one to concern myself with how others view me. You're certainly free to believe that I'm dumb, retarded, and possessed of whatever myraid of other deficiencies you read into my posts. Is it possible that I even asked someone else to write this one?
 
Old 01-28-2016, 09:44 AM
 
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The tendency to see the world as out to get you, to be invading your house and tying up your wife, to disproportionately focus on rare risks and to be trying to gyp you all the time is a trait that frequently leads to gun fetishism.
Many people take Death Wish, Dirty Harry, Terminator etc. as documentaries


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But while we have gun-clutchers like Airborne who can't go to the bathroom without his Glock I'm no more enamored of the continual intellectually dishonesty of liberals who'd rather live in a PC pretend correct world of word police than address actualities. Both are insane.
That may be or may not be clinically accurate, but one side is far more violent and criminal. Bit of a false equivalency, maybe being a bit too even-handed?


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If more people would ditch party registration, which just reinforces the rotten concreted two party crony system and is an embarrassing admission of "I'm not going to think about this", ..... if they voted critically, not just in simple-minded lockstep every election, we'd be in a better condition.
Could not agree more.


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The binary mindset perpetuates it too.... (like "everyone who doesn't agree gun rights should be unfettered is a liberal", "everyone who thinks abortion is a pretty darn awful thing is a republican"....).

As for Trump, its great he's can't be controlled by the party. Its shaking up the moribund, stagnant state US democracy. But of course he has no actual concrete ideas, its all just "how great I'm going to be and you're going to feel if I'm president". Which will be true for the first 2 or 3 days of his presidency for those people voting for him. Then buyer's remorse will set in.
My opinion is he is very damaging to the GOP whether he drops out, continues or wins. He's also damaging the FOX "News" brand, Cruz, Bush, Palin...

He's got my vote in the primaries.

Register GOP, Vote DEM - learned from the GOPers a few years ago. And even if he does win, as ridiculous as he is, he's still better than any of the rest of them. More embarrassing for the country though.

Thank's for an insightful & thoughtful post...
 
Old 01-30-2016, 09:26 PM
 
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most liberals use fear tactics and threats, illusion, subversion.. but they're nothing more than a little man behind the curtain as in the wizard of oz. once exposed in objective reality, they can't do anything. they get paralyzed..
 
Old 01-31-2016, 12:48 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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most liberals use fear tactics and threats, illusion, subversion.. but they're nothing more than a little man behind the curtain as in the wizard of oz. once exposed in objective reality, they can't do anything. they get paralyzed..
Right ... whereas others see the "objective real." Gotcha. Hey, quite an optimistic platform. I need to credit you that. Have you read Plato ? Fascinating ...

Wizard of Oz. Hmmmm. Is this where you got that ?

Graham calls Trump the Wizard of Oz: 'There's nothing behind the curtain' - POLITICO

Donald Trump's Wizard of Oz Moment

Trump's Wizard of Oz Act -- Curtain Pulled Back| National Review Online

See how it works ...?

Likely not, I realize, but others might be thinking things over. Anything at all.

In the way of a P.S., I have sometimes found liberals to be not-so-swift. Never noticed the "fear tactics," although I see 654 every micro-second from anyone even remotely on the right. Gives a person pause.
 
Old 01-31-2016, 02:13 PM
 
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most liberals use fear tactics and threats, illusion, subversion..
Some examples of those?
 
Old 01-31-2016, 04:16 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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And speaking of Trump ... ? and upcoming auctions, should anyone be interested:

H A R L E M + B E S P O K E: READ: AUCTION SET FOR CONTROVERSIAL CHURCH

Check out the comments at the end of the story, especially the one that points out - Trump had invited Manning as "representative of the black community." The nerve.

Actually my favorite is the one that asks whether Trump was the tipping point for this guy's reputation.
 
Old 01-31-2016, 04:18 PM
 
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Some examples of those?
Yeah, I would like to see some of those as well.
 
Old 01-31-2016, 05:45 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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I can point out one particular fear tactic of the left: the manufacturing of a "gun violence epidemic" perpetrated by "assault weapons" when in fact gun violence has steadily declined for 20 years, weapons themselves perpetrate nothing (language matters, re-read my first sentence...), and "assault weapons" account for less felonious deaths per year than fists, feet, and rocks (all per FBI statistics).

But none of that matters now anyway because Trump is going to sweep the primaries and then destroy whoever manages to eke out a win on the democrat side.
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