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Old 07-29-2015, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Bluefly View Post
One can be capitalist and still vote Democrat. Most are, in fact. All Democratic policy is an acknowledgment that captialism works but has to be buffered because it doesn't work in all situations. The whole "socialist" charge is just political posturing for cheap political points. Very, very few are socialists.

I mean, our economy has actually grown faster under Democratic presidents historically. Look at Obama: record corporate profits, record stock market, private sector jobs growing by millions, public sector jobs shrinking

That's a capitalist. He just works to expand the reach so it benefits more people and ultimately grows stronger. That strong middle class favoritism, for example.
Ever look to see why the stock market bubble is huge? Obama is funding the banks buying bad debt and the banks are putting that money into the stock market.. the market is funding the businesses, and are the really making money? I don't think so... the companies are loaded with cash now. Investors don't get any interest from banks so they buy stock and the 401K's are funding the stock market as well. That bubble will burst and many will lose large amounts of value in their stocks.

Many people have dropped out of the work force and are not counted as unemployed. Much of our dollars are being sent over to China, the middle east and Mexico . It is not circulating here. We are a service society and will implode as time goes on. Our tax base is small and our giveaways are huge and growing as more anchor babies are born here , thank Obama. All for a vote he bankrupts America and the people.

We the people have lost , and the middle class will be demoted to poor as time goes on. Greece will look like a picnic compared to the depression we will experience in the future. Obama did nothing to strengthen our economy. The private sector did all the work and most is smoke and mirrors . Obama has wasted money on green energy and has created debt that cannot be paid..putting out commercials for food stamps... etc.. etc.. the next generations will suffer greatly as taxes and inflation destroy the middle class.

Someone has to pay for all the freebees including illegals who have anchor babies to rape our welfare system and the middle class is the ones who will pay. America's credit card is defunct when China refused to lend any more money to our government and then the day of reckoning will be hell for the American people.

 
Old 07-29-2015, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Ever look to see why the stock market bubble is huge? Obama is funding the banks buying bad debt and the banks are putting that money into the stock market.. the market is funding the businesses, and are the really making money? I don't think so... the companies are loaded with cash now. Investors don't get any interest from banks so they buy stock and the 401K's are funding the stock market as well. That bubble will burst and many will lose large amounts of value in their stocks.

Many people have dropped out of the work force and are not counted as unemployed. Much of our dollars are being sent over to China, the middle east and Mexico . It is not circulating here. We are a service society and will implode as time goes on. Our tax base is small and our giveaways are huge and growing as more anchor babies are born here , thank Obama. All for a vote he bankrupts America and the people.

We the people have lost , and the middle class will be demoted to poor as time goes on. Greece will look like a picnic compared to the depression we will experience in the future. Obama did nothing to strengthen our economy. The private sector did all the work and most is smoke and mirrors . Obama has wasted money on green energy and has created debt that cannot be paid..putting out commercials for food stamps... etc.. etc.. the next generations will suffer greatly as taxes and inflation destroy the middle class.

Someone has to pay for all the freebees including illegals who have anchor babies to rape our welfare system and the middle class is the ones who will pay. America's credit card is defunct when China refused to lend any more money to our government and then the day of reckoning will be hell for the American people.

Better get that Y2K bunker in the back yard cleaned out and stocked up with peanut butter and bottled water.

 
Old 07-29-2015, 09:26 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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I can see this conversation is pretty much a platform for bashing liberals, but to put some real "fair and balanced" into it, anything y'all would accuse the extreme left of, could equally be describing the extreme right. If it were up to either group, we'd be back to a monarchy, which is exactly what the framers of the constitution was trying to avoid. Fortunately, moderates of both parties equalize the effects of extremism in this country, otherwise we'd be no better off than some of the muslim countries that are torn apart by warlords trying to get rid of their opposition.
The people who want the monarchy are the corporatists and the super religious wing of the party. I'm not talking about people who are even fervently pro-life/traditional values people, but those who believe the government should be virtually an extension of the church.
 
Old 07-29-2015, 09:29 AM
 
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In my personal life, I try to surround myself with positive people who believe that America is a good country and reinforce the American dream. I don't like surrounding myself with debbie downer liberals who think the rich are evil, the country needs to be transformed, etc.

Do you find associating yourself with liberals upsetting?
Actually, I find my brain shriveling when I'm around conservatives. Their lack of education, their total ignorance, their selfishness, their hateful attitude towards anyone not like them, their misguidance, basically everything about conservatives is the worst you can come across.
 
Old 07-29-2015, 09:47 AM
 
Location: CT
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The people who want the monarchy are the corporatists and the super religious wing of the party. I'm not talking about people who are even fervently pro-life/traditional values people, but those who believe the government should be virtually an extension of the church.
I'm confused, you began the conversation against the liberal influence of the left, but statements like this seem to indicate a problem on the right??????
 
Old 07-29-2015, 09:54 AM
 
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Actually, I find my brain shriveling when I'm around conservatives. Their lack of education, their total ignorance, their selfishness, their hateful attitude towards anyone not like them, their misguidance, basically everything about conservatives is the worst you can come across.
There's a lot of irony in this statement.
You can consider this person the poster child for the original point in this thread.
 
Old 07-29-2015, 09:55 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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I'm confused, you began the conversation against the liberal influence of the left, but statements like this seem to indicate a problem on the right??????
The right is far broader and diverse than the left gives it credit for.
 
Old 07-29-2015, 09:56 AM
 
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The right is far broader and diverse than the left gives it credit for.
Vice versa.

Mick
 
Old 07-29-2015, 09:58 AM
 
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The Leftists in U.S. supports Islamic terrorism.

Being an immigrant to US from Pakistan where I have seen first hand the evils of Islam, the support of the Leftists for this death cult is reason enough for me to not support them!
 
Old 07-29-2015, 10:00 AM
 
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Ever look to see why the stock market bubble is huge? Obama is funding the banks buying bad debt and the banks are putting that money into the stock market.. the market is funding the businesses, and are the really making money? I don't think so... the companies are loaded with cash now. Investors don't get any interest from banks so they buy stock and the 401K's are funding the stock market as well. That bubble will burst and many will lose large amounts of value in their stocks.
Just six companies account for half of the entire NASDAQ's gains so far in 2015. Amazon, Google, Apple, Facebook, Netflix and Gilead Sciences. There are over 3000 companies listed in that index, which signals that these tech giants are propping up the whole market. As more and more people chase these giants, they become more and more inflated.

S&P 500 is up just 1% this year. This bubble is about to burst, as many companies are overvalued.
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