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Old 07-30-2015, 11:36 AM
 
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In the case of India, Britain built more miles of rail road and telegraph (than in Britain) and a postal system. When they became available telephone and radio were introduced by the British Raj . . The Indians got the English language since India had over a hundred different languages and dialects and no one could agree on a common language! The same applied to Parliamentary government and English Common Law. You will also find that industrialization of India to supply the needs of the local market and those of nearby colonies was began before Independence in 1947. Business groups like Tata predate Independence. India,s first modern army and police was organized by Britain.
Yet why is China so much more economically successful than India? China was devastated by the Great Leap Forward and WWII and had a lower per capita GDP for a long time. Japan actually did everything you mentioned that the British did in India (not the culture or language or governance) in Manchuria yet Manchuria is now one of the poorer regions in China. Few people would also consider what Japan did in Manchuria to be uplifting yet why do the British always say they uplifted their colonies?
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Old 07-30-2015, 11:46 AM
 
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Because there were none in the agreement for independence; plain and simple. India needed a controlled separation to not have total collapse. The breakup of India showed the dangers. That does not however change the suppression UK did in it and other countries. India has just moved on but likely when it become more a power economically; UK history in India will be rewritten by those in India.
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Old 07-30-2015, 11:49 AM
 
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Yet why is China so much more economically successful than India? China was devastated by the Great Leap Forward and WWII and had a lower per capita GDP for a long time. Japan actually did everything you mentioned that the British did in India (not the culture or language or governance) in Manchuria yet Manchuria is now one of the poorer regions in China. Few people would also consider what Japan did in Manchuria to be uplifting yet why do the British always say they uplifted their colonies?
India wasnt really a country like we know it today before Britain united the area to what it became. Lots of different states competed for power, almost like European states.
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Old 07-30-2015, 07:18 PM
 
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Not on their own.

West Germany received a huge amount of help from the USA and the Marshal Plan. There was also additional huge USA investment in the FDR via NATO as ground zero should the Cold War go Hot.

On the other hand East Germany, under Soviet control languished until the FRG and DDR reunited in the 1990.
I'm not disputing this at all.

But Germany made the most out of its Marshall Plan funding with typical German efficiency.

Germany rebuilt its industrial might into something that Great Britain can only dream of.
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Old 07-30-2015, 07:37 PM
 
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Why does anyone owe reparations to anyone? It's history, move along.
No one does. Period.
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Old 07-30-2015, 07:40 PM
 
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No one does. Period.
You don't know one way or the other.

You didn't even know that India was once a British colony.
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Old 07-30-2015, 07:55 PM
 
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At the very least they need to give back all the jewelry, stones and other treasure stolen from Indian palaces including the Taj Mahal.

They can begin by giving back the largest diamond in the world, the Kohinoor which is shamelessly resting in their "princes" crown.

It's no wonder India was called the crown jewel in the British Empire.

Or since India is now more powerful militarily now than the UK, they can invade England forcibly take all their looted treasure back ;-).
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Old 07-30-2015, 08:01 PM
 
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You don't know one way or the other.

You didn't even know that India was once a British colony.
And you just make stuff up.
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Old 07-30-2015, 11:28 PM
 
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At the end of May, the Oxford Union held a debate on the motion "This house believes Britain owes reparations to her former colonies". Speakers included Indian politician and writer Shashi Tharoor and British historian John MacKenzie. Mr Tharoor's argument in support of the motion has found favour among many Indians, where the subject of colonial exploitation remains a sore topic. Here, Professor MacKenzie, who spoke against the motion, offers his views.

Viewpoint: Why Britain does not owe reparations to India - BBC News

India: just stuff it, Ok?

Word was your "culture" pretty much sucked even before the English got caught up in that country. Many other countries had it MUCH worse like South Korea 60 years ago but are doing well in 2015.

The UK owes reparations to much of the world, the USA included.
India is getting theirs in the form of sending 1/4 of their population to England.
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Old 08-06-2015, 04:09 AM
 
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Not on their own.

West Germany received a huge amount of help from the USA and the Marshal Plan. There was also additional huge USA investment in the FDR via NATO as ground zero should the Cold War go Hot.

On the other hand East Germany, under Soviet control languished until the FRG and DDR reunited in the 1990.
Nope Marshall Plan were only loans to Germany which were completely payed back by Germany and could be spend only on american products.

Germans rebuild Germany not Americans. End of story.
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