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Old 07-29-2015, 04:01 PM
 
Location: CO
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You want examples of the sky is blue and the grass green. The examples are peppered on this forum and in the news.

How many corporations moved to blacklist Trump for saying illegal aliens are bringing crime? How many corporations banned and censored anything and everything with a confederate flag? There's two examples.
That would be 2 examples of corporations being PC.

So..... where's the "mass immigration, open borders, globalist and diversity/multiculturalism crazy train?"
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Old 07-29-2015, 04:04 PM
 
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Democrats aren't the enemy of capitalism. They just accept its limitations.

Clinton oversaw one of the greatest periods of private economic expansion in our history

Obama is overseeing record corporate profits, millions of new private sector jobs, a decline in government jobs, and a record stock market.

How is that anti-capitalism?
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Old 07-29-2015, 04:09 PM
 
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Pure nonsense. Open borders, mass immigration from low IQ nations and globalism is about collapsing the middle class. Diversity and multiculturalism and PC is about promoting division of the populace and collapsing freedom and liberty and propagating mass immigration.

Corporations and government are trying to turn America into a country like Brazil or such with two-economic classes and divided and diverse and poor/powerless populace .
Fascinating. So in your mind making sure people have the freedom to gain employment, not be harassed, live where they wish, and have economic opportunities is "PC"?

Do you define freedom as being able to mock and hold back someone who isn't white and male?

Son, that's not freedom.
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Old 07-29-2015, 04:14 PM
 
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Fascinating. So in your mind making sure people have the freedom to gain employment, not be harassed, live where they wish, and have economic opportunities is "PC"?

Do you define freedom as being able to mock and hold back someone who isn't white and male?

Son, that's not freedom.
Political correct is just the opposite affirmative action and foreign workers preventing Americans from advancing in employment, constant harassment, being told who your neighbors will be and what your economic opportunities will be, mocking and holding down any one who is white or male.

Son, that's not freedom.
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Old 07-29-2015, 04:40 PM
 
Location: TN/NC
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Democrats aren't the enemy of capitalism. They just accept its limitations.

Clinton oversaw one of the greatest periods of private economic expansion in our history

Obama is overseeing record corporate profits, millions of new private sector jobs, a decline in government jobs, and a record stock market.

How is that anti-capitalism?
Then why do they have so many avowed socialists among their supporters?
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Old 07-29-2015, 04:41 PM
 
Location: The Silver State (from the UK)
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You are right. It is all out to get you, make your grandkids less white, take away your "liberty" and "collapse the middle class".

You know there exists a lot of people, who were born with much higher IQs than you, who make more money than you, who have consistently at a 90%+ consensus found that mass immigration is economically accretive to America, right (crickets while you look up "accretive")? They might have gone to schools where the boss of your boss of your boss of your boss of your boss of your boss went, but that is only an endorsement.

No matter how it goes down, I think we can be pretty sure that your monthly bills will be paid this way, not vice versa, and you will drift further into lower middle class status - illegal immigrants or not.


Mass immigration, yes. But you cannot deny that America needs some immigrants, right? What we need is an immigration system that meets the needs of today's economy, not that of the 1950s (which is what we have).
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Old 07-29-2015, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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though I do not agree with Bernie on Several Issues he would Supress Corporate influence in Government.

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You cannot reduce corporate influence by increasing the reach of government.
EXACTLY!!!

All you'd end up with is the USSR 2.0

Remove the revolving door of politicians who become lobbyists who then become executives for the corporations they lobbied for.

It's crony capitalism that's killing this country, PERIOD! There needs to be term limits, and strict guidelines on conflict of interest. These people are supposed to be doing the peoples business, not padding their bank accounts (please see Pelosi and Feinstein as examples)
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Old 07-29-2015, 04:44 PM
 
Location: The Silver State (from the UK)
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This is where the far left like Bernie Sanders and Dennis Kucinich, the people like Rand Paul and Sarah Palin can all find themselves in agreement. All the others, seem to be useful idiots when it comes to politicians convincing them that it's fine and dandy to allow them to continue looting the US Treasury to buy votes, and reward the friends and political and corporate cronies.

We are well over $18 trillion in debt, with about $150 trillion in unfunded liabilities, and I have to debate these useful idiots over federal spending, as politicians loot the treasury and heap mountains of debt on our children. Meanwhile, every other politician comes up with a new compassionate sounding, Utopian sounding "wouldn't it be wonderful if" taxpayer funded spending scheme, to add even more debt.


We are carrying too much fiscal spending in relation to tax income, yes. But we have to be careful not to compare public debt with private debt. Lets be honest, the goal should not be to pay down our debt - the goal should be to set the country on a more sustainable fiscal and economic path. The US has a robust enough economy and the potential to do that easily with some adjustments to policy making. Unfortunately, we have had two fiscally irresponsible Presidents in a row that have not addressed the issues that need addressing.
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Old 07-29-2015, 04:46 PM
 
Location: The Silver State (from the UK)
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Then why do they have so many avowed socialists among their supporters?


For the same reason that inbred, confederate flag waving, gun loving neanderthals are supporters of the republican party. There are only two choices, so you pick the one that represents you slightly more than the other.
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Old 07-29-2015, 04:50 PM
 
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Political correct is just the opposite affirmative action and foreign workers preventing Americans from advancing in employment, constant harassment, being told who your neighbors will be and what your economic opportunities will be, mocking and holding down any one who is white or male.

Son, that's not freedom.
I'm sorry you have to compete with well educated people born in other countries and fostering innovations and jobs here. I know quite a few. Our country has actually been built by immigrants since it began.

That's was being a real American is.

I'm white and male. No one's ever mocked nor held me down. You must bring it upon yourself.

Buck up, throw some dirt on it, and get back in the American game!
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