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Old 08-04-2015, 01:55 AM
 
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Pakistan's government is not more fanatical.
It's less secure and more reliant on the more fanatical elements to stay in power. It's why we lied and pretended they knew nothing about us "invading" to get OBL.
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Old 08-04-2015, 05:42 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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now that's what you call a media hit job. by the war industrial complex.

to point a book that That is years old. which by the way was not written by Khamenie.

point out to few out of context sentences and phrases and then jump to convenient conclusion Their Goal is nuclear destruction.

Nice hit job. Well done.
Ahhh but your wrong..


"In his new book, the Iranian religious leader calls for long periods of low-intensity warfare that makes like unpleasant or impossible for a majority of Israeli Jews so they leave Israel. He does not, however, call for the complete destruction of the country or the massacre of Jewish people"

Clearly Eric that Khamenie wrote the book very recently. But I understand why you reject the contents in the article. It does not aid your points in favor of Iran. Just like the Islamic religion,if anything becomes exposed, you reject it.
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Old 08-04-2015, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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They know that Iran isn't a direct threat to us. "Us" isn't who they're worried about. In fact, "us" are the last people they're worrying about.

The same old excuses. It was "mishandling." Lack of strategy, poor implementation, arrogance, lack of understanding of our enemy. But you know...NEXT TIME, we won't get any of those things wrong.

Because you know...the United States has this wonderful history of learning from its mistakes.

Right?

"Your perspective of a particular out of context historical even must some how predict a future outcome."

LMAO...no, what i'm doing is pointing out your pollyanish statements and outrageous hubris based on the fact that the U.S. spends 700 billion a year on defense.


No, they can't.
It's no excuse. Your historical knowledge of the region is very poor.

Islamic insurgence are very educated people compared to the arrogant analogies American's perceive them too be. When the U.S deployed Humvee's in Afghanistan, they kept getting blown up. So the U.S sat down for a long time, used valuable resources and finances to figure out a way to prevent Humvee's from blowing up. They then decided to add armor to the Humvee's. When RPG's did no work as well, the terrorist used IED's instead. Then the Americans decided to use Rapid Response Teams instead of trolling around in Humvee's. The insurgents then Ambushed the RRT's because they followed a similar schedule.

My point is that our strategy and misunderstanding of Iraq and Afghanistan is what led to its complications. Many of these Islamic figures are Ivy leagued from Western Universities and they learned very quickly to adapt to American strategy. We took these guys with a little grain of salt. If we imprinted other methods, our outcome probably would of been different.

But you still are not providing anything educated to how the U.S does not have military superiority over Iran, Iraq or Afghanistan.
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Old 08-04-2015, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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A book "only available in Iran" but brought to our attention by the good ol New York Post - mind blowing


The Iran deal is a good thing. The gulf states just yesterday (or early today) came out in support of it. Now they, and every developed nation on earth thinks it is the right way forward, except for Bibi and American republicans. Wonder why?
We shall see when Egypt and Saudi Arabia research their own nuclear weapons programs.
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Old 08-04-2015, 07:23 AM
 
Location: The Silver State (from the UK)
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We shall see when Egypt and Saudi Arabia research their own nuclear weapons programs.

They support it precisely because it is the right thing to do. Are you privy to some information that they are not?
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Old 08-04-2015, 10:34 AM
 
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Ahhh but your wrong..


"In his new book, the Iranian religious leader calls for long periods of low-intensity warfare that makes like unpleasant or impossible for a majority of Israeli Jews so they leave Israel. He does not, however, call for the complete destruction of the country or the massacre of Jewish people"

Clearly Eric that Khamenie wrote the book very recently. But I understand why you reject the contents in the article. It does not aid your points in favor of Iran. Just like the Islamic religion,if anything becomes exposed, you reject it.
No Clearly you are not interested in the truth. because you Admit that they are not talking about destruction in Terms of Weapons of Mass Destruction but rather regime change.

but then you keep on claiming nuclear annihilation! But i guess in your book the goal justifies the means (lying)

if they wanted to nuclear annihilation They could have very easily bought a few dirty bombs in Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, Siberia, Kazakhstan, Uzbakistan and handed to some mindless brained washed kid from Hamas and had him blow it up in a bus.

It has not been a very difficult thing to do but it has been 35 years since that regime has been in power and they have chosen not do such a thing ("nuclear annihilation").

They have been Aiding Hezbollah For years and years. Hezbollah has fought Israeli troops in southern Lebanon for more than 30 years. Hezbollah has been in very tough situations in Certain Battles.
Have they ever used Chemical or biological Agents? The answer is No. Even the Israeli say so.

They have had 35 years of opportunity to "destroy Israel" via physical means yet they haven't done it.

But to hell with the Truth. to get more $$$ as Military or Economic Aid to Israel it is justifiable to lie.
Oh and then sell a few billion more useless weapons to Saudis and Emirates to ensure there is a military "balance".

The "Defense" Industry makes money like bandits. The American people pay the bill.

I understand where you are coming From.
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Old 08-04-2015, 11:40 AM
 
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Quick....call Morgan Freeman!

http://m.youtube.com/results?q=iran%20deal%20ad&sm=3



All in.
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Old 08-04-2015, 11:55 AM
 
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Originally Posted by i_love_autumn View Post
So true, just wish it would happen sooner!

Anywho, I just thought the story shows even more what an imbecile Obama was to make a nuke deal with Iran. Makes him look like a fool, and no one is dumb enough to believe that 'now', Finally, Iran will actually allow inspections when they never did before, yeah right, like that will ever happen!
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Iran is rapidly becoming a secular nation and culture and the ayatollahs are realizing their power and privilege are going to disappear. Nothing trumps religious zeal faster then real prosperity. When people get better off they start to worry more about the now than the hereafter. Without the promise of heaven why should people bother will the great payday in the Sky.
There is insanity and then there's stark, raving, foaming at the mouth, lunacy.
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Old 08-04-2015, 11:58 AM
 
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Why should we care about some book by an ayatollah?

So he doesn't like Israel or the United States. Great.

Tell him to have a Coke and a smile and go on with your life.
Mein Kamph.

Some people are just compelled to reveal their monumental ignorance.
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Old 08-04-2015, 12:08 PM
 
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Why should we care about some book by an ayatollah?

So he doesn't like Israel or the United States. Great.

Tell him to have a Coke and a smile and go on with your life.

should the book writing nut have his coke right before or right after he sets off the nuke we have effectively given him?
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