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Old 08-05-2015, 11:14 AM
 
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A publicly held company, yes. A private company can do whatever it wants.
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Old 08-05-2015, 11:19 AM
 
Location: NYPD"s 30th Precinct
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It's more like "I am only going to sell stuff to support the liberal causes. Anything related to the conservative have been removed from my store."

How is that not discrimination?
They're not only selling things that support liberal causes. You're free to purchase a giant poster of a smiling Ronald Reagan (I assume, who knows) from most of the places you mentioned (Ebay, Amazon, Wal-Mart).

What if they decided to stop selling t-shirts that say, "I [HEART] ABORTION!". Does that mean they're discriminating against liberals?

Regardless, let's say you're right and this does somehow constitute discrimination. Refer to the second point of my previous post. Political beliefs do not constitute a protected class. It is perfectly legal for a store owner to discriminate against someone due to their political beliefs. You can choose not to give the store your business and encourage others to do the same, but they have every legal right to make that decision.
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Old 08-05-2015, 11:24 AM
 
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What do you think the chances are that the Republican leadership in the Senate will allow this legislation to get to the floor?
Since there are no real details who knows.

If part of his plan was to ban contortions from unions, law firms and associations, what do you think the chances are for Democratic leadership support?
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Old 08-05-2015, 11:27 AM
 
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Private businesses are exactly how they sound. They're private.
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Old 08-05-2015, 11:38 AM
 
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They're not only selling things that support liberal causes. You're free to purchase a giant poster of a smiling Ronald Reagan (I assume, who knows) from most of the places you mentioned (Ebay, Amazon, Wal-Mart).

What if they decided to stop selling t-shirts that say, "I [HEART] ABORTION!". Does that mean they're discriminating against liberals?

Regardless, let's say you're right and this does somehow constitute discrimination. Refer to the second point of my previous post. Political beliefs do not constitute a protected class. It is perfectly legal for a store owner to discriminate against someone due to their political beliefs. You can choose not to give the store your business and encourage others to do the same, but they have every legal right to make that decision.
Companies can't fire people for different political views as that's discrimination. Why should a company be able to take a stance on certain political issue?

It's one thing for the SC taking down the confederate flag - they can decide what to fly but it is not OK for Walmart, Amazon or eBay to do it on political ground. Well, if they want to do it, do it consistently. Let's stop selling the rainbow flags too. When they choose one side and alienate the other, that's discrimination.
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Old 08-05-2015, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Oceania
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Shouldn't a business to be politically neutral? I am not here to debate whether or not we should support a certain political notion here but I am getting tired of businesses, particularly large corporations taking a political stance and forcing a political issue onto us. I do understand they are private businesses and have the right to sell certain products but their purely politically motivated decisions are changing the way we live.

Shouldn't that be considered political discrimination? For example, eBay and Amazon's decision not to sell any firearm related items or the confederation flags, Walmart and Apple not to sell confederation flags, airlines banning any trophy hunting items, Apple not to sell any porn related apps, etc. etc. etc. What's the difference between these and those shops refusing to make gay wedding cakes or to carry gay themed movies?

Personally, I'd think as long as they are legal, particularly for those providing a platform for Internet sellers, such as eBay, Amazon and Apple, they should not discriminate like this or at least the decision shall not be political.

Thoughts?
You should direct your concerns toward dips who find it necessary to raise hell about what you list. The companies you mention are acting in compliance of what new laws/restrictions litigation - not legislation - brings about. How about those businesses just shutting down and going away? They are no longer free to operate in a free market.

Some get butt hurt for no reason and demand society bows to their wants. They find lawyers who will take the cases to court and liberal judges side with them, Result; society as a whole suffers for the whims of a very few.

There it is in a nutshell.
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Old 08-05-2015, 11:43 AM
 
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Shouldn't a business to be politically neutral? I am not here to debate whether or not we should support a certain political notion here but I am getting tired of businesses, particularly large corporations taking a political stance and forcing a political issue onto us. I do understand they are private businesses and have the right to sell certain products but their purely politically motivated decisions are changing the way we live.

Shouldn't that be considered political discrimination? For example, eBay and Amazon's decision not to sell any firearm related items or the confederation flags, Walmart and Apple not to sell confederation flags, airlines banning any trophy hunting items, Apple not to sell any porn related apps, etc. etc. etc. What's the difference between these and those shops refusing to make gay wedding cakes or to carry gay themed movies?

Personally, I'd think as long as they are legal, particularly for those providing a platform for Internet sellers, such as eBay, Amazon and Apple, they should not discriminate like this or at least the decision shall not be political.

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Discrimination is when you refuse service to a particular consumer that you given everyone else. A company's decision of what products they peddle doesn't fall under this catergory.
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Old 08-05-2015, 11:50 AM
 
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Shouldn't a business to be politically neutral? I am not here to debate whether or not we should support a certain political notion here but I am getting tired of businesses, particularly large corporations taking a political stance and forcing a political issue onto us. I do understand they are private businesses and have the right to sell certain products but their purely politically motivated decisions are changing the way we live.
I'd rather know what their political stance is. What I don't understand is if for example you are gay and the baker does not want to bake a cake for you why you wouldn't want to know that. You can take your money elsewhere to a more friendly store. Why would you want to put money into the pockets of someone that doesn't like your lifestyle? You're not going to change what people think through laws, you're just sweeping it under the rug.

There is a convenience store nearby that was purchased by some Indians recently and they put up a sign that says no guns allowed. I'm not going to protest it, I'm not going to complain about it. I'm going to take my business elsewhere. I haven't looked recently but I wouldn't be surprised if the sign is gone because this is not an area where that is going to be good for business. Even if it's gone I'm not going back.
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Old 08-05-2015, 11:51 AM
 
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Discrimination is when you refuse service to a particular consumer that you given everyone else. A company's decision of what products they peddle doesn't fall under this catergory.
Purposely removing all the confederate flags v.s. selling all the rainbow flags. How is that not discrimination?

It's like a store says "We won't carry MLK's books because he's black." See how long that would fly.
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Old 08-05-2015, 11:54 AM
 
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I'd rather know what their political stance is. What I don't understand is if for example you are gay and the baker does not want to bake a cake for you why you wouldn't want to know that. You can take your money elsewhere to a more friendly store. Why would you want to put money into the pockets of someone that doesn't like your lifestyle? You're not going to change what people think through laws, you're just sweeping it under the rug.

There is a convenience store nearby that was purchased by some Indians recently and they put up a sign that says no guns allowed. I'm not going to protest it, I'm not going to complain about it. I'm going to take my business elsewhere. I haven't looked recently but I wouldn't be surprised if the sign is gone because this is not an area where that is going to be good for business. Even if it's gone I'm not going back.
I understand that.

The point is why big corporations are allowed to dictate our life by imposing their political view upon us?
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