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Old 08-08-2015, 08:52 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Valid point that a person seeking abortion, should pay for it. On the same note, a person being forced to bear child should be provided additional assistance, for as long as it takes to preserve that "life". Don't go whining and crying about Medicaid and public welfare later.
That would only be true for women who are forced to have unprotected sex, which is actually very few. For all the others, it's a choice. A choice for which THEY AND THE FATHER should bear the costs.

 
Old 08-08-2015, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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That would only be true for women who are forced to have unprotected sex, which is actually very few. For all the others, it's a choice. A choice for which THEY AND THE FATHER should bear the costs.
Not necessarily. Anytime you promote policies taking over personal choices, you better be prepared to support implications of ALL of them. No excuses.
 
Old 08-08-2015, 09:10 PM
 
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In other words, you're deflecting from the conversation. If you are anti-choice, anti-birth control and what not, you better come prepared to support the children and adults that come out of these choices you push on the society.
Perhaps you should read my replies (all of them) and not take one out of context as to what was being discussed.
 
Old 08-08-2015, 09:12 PM
 
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No, it's not. QE wouldn't have been needed if the greedy public employees/retirees had agreed to give up their pensions, therefore letting the stock market adjust naturally to where it should be. Stocks are overvalued now because of the successive QEs.
Yes, overvalued because of the government's welfare programs. ie: QE.
 
Old 08-08-2015, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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The answer is short and sweet. NO People who are too weak or poor to care for their kids shouldn't have had them in the first place.
Wouldn't "pro-life" folks welcome all new lives regardless?
 
Old 08-08-2015, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Perhaps you should read my replies (all of them) and not take one out of context as to what was being discussed.
There is one discussion: Will Right Wing support additional children if abortion is outlawed?

Discuss, don't deflect.
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All I can tell you is that our family has adopted two children born of unwed mothers who chose to give them life rather than abort them, and I am eternally grateful to those mothers.
Your gratefulness noted. But, that also means you should respect the idea that not everybody has to agree with you. And that, if we do support more children and people, we better be prepared to fund the welfare of all. There is no shortage of right wingers that will cut taxes for corporations and the rich, promote regressive taxation and cut social services. Are you grateful to such governance as well?
 
Old 08-08-2015, 09:16 PM
 
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There is one discussion: Will Right Wing support additional children if abortion is outlawed?

Discuss, don't deflect.
I have. Read the thread. No one is obligated to repeat what they have said each time someone jumps in late and is too lazy to catch themselves up.

I'll even help. Start at post #7.
 
Old 08-08-2015, 09:16 PM
 
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In other words, you're deflecting from the conversation. If you are anti-choice, anti-birth control and what not, you better come prepared to support the children and adults that come out of these choices you push on the society.
"Anti-choice." Why the euphemism? Just say what you mean: abortion.
 
Old 08-08-2015, 09:17 PM
 
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Wouldn't "pro-life" folks welcome all new lives regardless?
you would think.
 
Old 08-08-2015, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Interesting question....
Do we penalize responsible people for the actions of irresponsible people?
And if so, why?
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