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Old 08-09-2015, 09:56 AM
 
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It's merged into the San Juan River now. Questions remain as toxic mine contamination flows through San Juan County - Farmington Daily Times
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Old 08-09-2015, 09:57 AM
 
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What's the surprise, the EPA has been spreading s--t since it's inception ?
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Old 08-09-2015, 10:25 AM
 
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Was it a preventable accident, or just an accident?

There are no accidents.
That's very true. They are incidents not accidents.
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Old 08-09-2015, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Guess they need to heavily fine themselves.

EPA confirms Colorado mine spill contains heavy metals - KOAA.com | Continuous News | Colorado Springs and Pueblo

Federal environmental officials have confirmed the mustard-colored muck that surged into a river from a Colorado mine contained heavy metals including lead and arsenic, but they didn't immediately discuss amounts or health risks.

Seems to me this is what the river would look like all the time if there was no EPA.

The wealth class of China are leaving China. The U.S. And Canada are the most favored destinations. Enviornment and the ability to have more children are the primary reasons.
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Old 08-09-2015, 11:03 AM
 
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That's very true. They are incidents not accidents.
Even in the cosm - micro or macro.

Incidental there with which.
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Old 08-09-2015, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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Guess they need to heavily fine themselves.

EPA confirms Colorado mine spill contains heavy metals - KOAA.com | Continuous News | Colorado Springs and Pueblo

Federal environmental officials have confirmed the mustard-colored muck that surged into a river from a Colorado mine contained heavy metals including lead and arsenic, but they didn't immediately discuss amounts or health risks.

Government mules and morons. This is what happens when you hire idiots and take the rights away from states. That is as big a disaster as an oil spill in my opinion.
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Old 08-09-2015, 11:18 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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If experience tells me anything short term there will be some damage especially for the fish, long term it should be fine.

Appears this mine was originally started late 1800's, mines like this dot the entire US landscape. They were built long before any environmental regulations were put in place and typically have drainage tunnels that empty into nearby waterways. It's likely that holding pond was recently built in the last few decades. Most are abandoned decades or even longer than 100 years and there is no one to hold responsible.

Cleanup of these properties is being done with fees collected from the coal mining industry. For every ton of coal that is mined the mining company pays a fee, that fee is used to reclaim these properties and remediate issues like this. It's used for all types of abandoned mines and properties, not just coal mines.
And yet the EPA claims authority and the right to oversee all water ways and tributaries in the US and making them comply with their arbitrary laws concerning them.

They are quick to place and fine those responsible, with the exception of themselves. Funny how that works.
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Old 08-09-2015, 11:20 AM
 
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Was it a preventable accident, or just an accident?

There are no accidents.


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That's very true. They are incidents not accidents.


A most negligent incident.
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Old 08-09-2015, 11:30 AM
 
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Was it a preventable accident, or just an accident?

There are no accidents.


A most negligent incident.
Could have been willful or non-willful negligence.

No one is going to go there, though.
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Old 08-10-2015, 07:23 AM
 
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Was it a preventable accident, or just an accident?

There are no accidents.

How do you "accidentally" release 1 million gallons?

A million gallons would be equivalent to 100 large fuel tank trucks that hold 10,000 gallons.

Actually they are now saying the spill was at least 3 times greater than first reported ... so more like 3 million gallons.
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