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That would be like aiming your gun at another shooter at a firing range. I have never heard of a shooting at a firing range, gun show or gun store.
Moonbat liberal train of thought...How could that possibly be? Aren't all of those guns dangerous in the hands of crazy people?
That's it in a nutshell.
actually there was a shoot out in a gun store once. massad ayoob detailed it in one of this articles many years ago. some guy decided to rob a gun store, and walked right by two uniformed police cars. he was wearing hearing protection. he drew his gun and pointed it at the store owner and demanded guns, ammunition, and money. the store owner, both police officers, and two armed customers all drew their weapons, and when the shooting was done the perp was dead, the store owner was slightly wounded, and nothing was taken.
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Being shot at while your hiking along a trail because some nut that bought a gun and doesn't know the first thing about safety.
Guns don't belong in parks, especially for target practice and trashing the area, this wasn't about hunting season this was someone camping out and it was night time.
Mentally ill people with a gun that are incapable of understanding the range on a weapon, ever hear of a firing range?
Typical ignorant comments.
You CAN NOT target shoot in Natl Parks, or any other park I know of, other than a "shooting park" aka range. In fact, while you CAN carry in a N park, you can't discharge a gun. So other than clear self defense guns should be holstered.
Mentally ill people are not alloiwed to buy or possess a gun, already. Read the law.
Laws are not going to stop criminals. In a park, forest, or ghetto. All they do is make victims (or criminals) of law abiding citizens.
If you don't like me being able to protect my family, stay home where it is safe and enjoy the wilderness via Nat. Geographic.
I beleive you. At least I dont want your guns though.
Good.
Yikes, I misunderstood and though that there was public land behind the back stop. Lets look at what you said: we didn't have to worry about anyone being in the woods near his land
Fair enough.
Is there any chance that those in the woods near your buddy's land have a right to be there? It does not really matter whether or not if the people in question are on public land or private land. If it is private land, they might be the owner or be there with his permission.
Nope. He and his dad own the land. Nobody else. This past weekend it was just myself, my buddy, my son, and his son. When we're shooting, everyone stands back until the person shooting identifies "range is cold!" Then we ALL walk down to stand to see what targets we hit. The only ones who have permission to be on his land are those he invites. So again, if someone is coming up from the woods from down range that would mean they are not invited, and whether or not it was accidental that they ended up on the property they are still trespassing.
At the end of the day, knowing that the back stop is not catching all the rounds and that there maybe people there, and that these people could well be there lawfully is not "cool" or "tough"- it is at the very least mildy dumb.
Again, if people are coming up from the woods from the direction of the stand or the back stop, they aren't there lawfully. As for the back stop not stopping everything, well... those woods are quite thick. Those bullets aren't going far without hitting a tree.
How dumb the shooting is is dependent on the totality of the circumstances. Which, as you clearly and accurately stated, I dont know. Therefore, I apologize for the "willfull stupidity" part of my comment.
Considering that my buddy is ex-military, as well as has a conceal carry, he's pretty cautious when it comes to shooting, and gun safety.
And of course, nobody ever goes into the woods- right? Maybe the scenario is not as bad as I pictured. His flippant atitude about the stray rounds irked me though.
The scenario isn't as bad as pictured. And like I said, the place is pretty remote. Yes there is a state forest close by, but it is opposite of where we are shooting. Not to mention in walking down his "road" toward the state lands when you come upon them it is clearly marked! Also, for those with private property, those properties are also marked with notices of private property. To sum it up... His "road" runs north to south. The state lands are to the south and east. When we shoot, we shoot toward the west. Can't shoot east, because it is in the direction of the "road" and someone owns property directly across from him. So shooting in that direction or any other direction would be irresponsible, as there are folks on both sides of him that own property. Now to the west? Totally different story.
You CAN NOT target shoot in Natl Parks, or any other park I know of, other than a "shooting park" aka range. In fact, while you CAN carry in a N park, you can't discharge a gun. So other than clear self defense guns should be holstered.
Mentally ill people are not alloiwed to buy or possess a gun, already. Read the law.
Laws are not going to stop criminals. In a park, forest, or ghetto. All they do is make victims (or criminals) of law abiding citizens.
If you don't like me being able to protect my family, stay home where it is safe and enjoy the wilderness via Nat. Geographic.
You really need to educate yourself on what is actually happening in National Parks, there are plenty of examples of using them for target practice and their was a man recently killed, I guess he should have stayed home rather than risk a stray bullet.
I guess the person who used the artifacts at Dinosaur national Park for target practice didn't know the law?
Yes these people that show disregard for the power of a weapon are mentallly ill, maybe not by the clinical definition but certainly anyone that fires randomly shows complete ignorance.
Since you are now allowed to bring a loaded gun to a park some have gone the extra step, what a surprise. Seems like those carrying guns"to protect the family" are the problem.
You really need to educate yourself on what is actually happening in National Parks, there are plenty of examples of using them for target practice and their was a man recently killed, I guess he should have stayed home rather than risk a stray bullet.
I guess the person who used the artifacts at Dinosaur national Park for target practice didn't know the law?
Yes these people that show disregard for the power of a weapon are mentallly ill, maybe not by the clinical definition but certainly anyone that fires randomly shows complete ignorance.
Since you are now allowed to bring a loaded gun to a park some have gone the extra step, what a surprise. Seems like those carrying guns"to protect the family" are the problem.
You are backing what you say with ONE isolated incident. For the most part, nothing has changed with the change in the law to allow firearms in the national parks system. I would ask you to show me any topic of life and death responsibilities where there isn't ONE incident. I could make you a thousand examples of where people use other items with just as much irresponsibility as firearms. Those trained in firearm safety have among the lowest incidents of any group you can name. The issue is that those who are not adequately trained, such as criminals who disregard the law anyway, are creating the problem. Restricting firearms does not affect them. They will have them anyway.
You really need to educate yourself on what is actually happening in National Parks, there are plenty of examples of using them for target practice and their was a man recently killed, I guess he should have stayed home rather than risk a stray bullet.
I guess the person who used the artifacts at Dinosaur national Park for target practice didn't know the law?
Yes these people that show disregard for the power of a weapon are mentallly ill, maybe not by the clinical definition but certainly anyone that fires randomly shows complete ignorance.
Since you are now allowed to bring a loaded gun to a park some have gone the extra step, what a surprise. Seems like those carrying guns"to protect the family" are the problem.
Most people who own guns are responsible and quiet about it. The people we read about in the news are newsworthy because.. Well, generally they are idiots. You can't outlaw that, and banning guns won't help either.
Mexico has strict gun laws. So Juan can't protect his family with a gun, but the gangs have lots of them. So do the cops. I don't own a gun, but I fiercely support the second amendment.
You are backing what you say with ONE isolated incident. For the most part, nothing has changed with the change in the law to allow firearms in the national parks system. I would ask you to show me any topic of life and death responsibilities where there isn't ONE incident. I could make you a thousand examples of where people use other items with just as much irresponsibility as firearms. Those trained in firearm safety have among the lowest incidents of any group you can name. The issue is that those who are not adequately trained, such as criminals who disregard the law anyway, are creating the problem. Restricting firearms does not affect them. They will have them anyway.
"U.S. Forest Service data reveals that of the 1,126 shooting violation citations issued nationwide last year, more than a quarter occurred in Colorado, the Times found. Some 274 shooting violations were reported in the state’s Pike and San Isabel national forests. The total number of violations nationwide top those reported more than 10 years ago by about 300."
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The only ones who have permission to be on his land are those he invites. So again, if someone is coming up from the woods from down range that would mean they are not invited, and whether or not it was accidental that they ended up on the property they are still trespassing.
