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I know for a fact, in Philly, there are gun shots every single day, up to 3 shootings a day, but crime is going down?
Right....so what do we do to get tough on crime.....?
Outside of most urban liberal cesspools crime is down. Inside some of them crime is way up. Fortunately Baltimore and Philadelphia are not the entire US.
statistics are a crime....they are lies, made up by the corruption that runs each city, and government system....
I really don't think a lot of people realize how corrupt our leaders our, even in our own communities.
I mean, really, have you ever looked around you, in your own city, town or where ever you live.
Yes. In my city, violent crime is way down from where it was 20-25 years ago. In my own neighborhood, I'm told that--even 10 years ago--the park that is across the street from my house used to be home to muggers, prostitutes, drug dealers, etc.
Of course, the decrease in crime in my area isn't an indication of what crime is doing across the country; that's what statistics are for.
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Count how many people are paying taxes and what you are paying...and then wonder, "Where in the hell, is all that money going to?" "What in the world are they doing with our money"?
They fudge the books, so it brings in more tourists...the amazing thing is, the same news that reports the shootings every morning, tells people "Come on Back to Philly" Crime is Down....
and it isn't.
I'm still not sure what you're basing this on.
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I measure crime where I live, by reading the police blotter in the paper, watching the news, etc. The blotter is actually quite informative, as it relays what types of crime and in what specific areas the arrests/incidents occur. Statistics don't tell me much. I still feel they are to biased to rely on. Its rather like weather reports. I can look out the window and get as good a read on things as what the weatherman will say.
Those statistics are from the same source as the police blotter. And, as I mentioned above, your police blotter isn't going to tell you about the crime rate across the country.
Its not mocking you for your belief, its mocking you because thats not a reliable method of determining crime rates overall.
And crime has fallen dramatically for a while, although I would expect that to slow down now. Theres a statistically valid correlation between removing the lead from gasoline, and decreased crime. Turns out that as was expected lead did bad things.
Never heard that one before. I've heard that Roe v Wade and the increase in abortions caused crime to go down, and of course that the 100 million more guns in the US caused crime rates to go down, and '3 strikes you're out' and other stricter punishment laws caused them to go down, that an aging population has caused the crime rate to drop, but never that removing leaded gas did.
Could higher remaining concentrations of lead (pipes, paint, old gas stations etc) in older urban cities be a reason why those areas have much higher crime rates than rural areas?
Otherwise, a lot of New York's Finest would have to work.
they are making these bogus statements b/c of the upcoming election...they want us all to believe, that crime is down, and jobs are up, all under Obama, so you vote in another Dem....I've been watching the news state that about jobs and crime for months now....but if a Republican gets in, the local liberal stations will report the opposite. It is so obvious.
Yes. In my city, violent crime is way down from where it was 20-25 years ago. In my own neighborhood, I'm told that--even 10 years ago--the park that is across the street from my house used to be home to muggers, prostitutes, drug dealers, etc.
Of course, the decrease in crime in my area isn't an indication of what crime is doing across the country; that's what statistics are for.
I'm still not sure what you're basing this on.
Those statistics are from the same source as the police blotter. And, as I mentioned above, your police blotter isn't going to tell you about the crime rate across the country.
Don't much care about national crime rate. I pay attention to what effects me, directly. The local stuff. Like if there's been a burglary rash and such. Things I need to take extra precaution for. Up ticks in whatever crimes back East don't hold much influence over how I live my life, outside of maybe larger stories/incidents that have human interest.
As far as that goes, here , where I live, crime has been pretty steady, as to number of incidents. Serious crime is pretty rare, such as murder etc, outside of the more...run down..areas of Reno/Sparks metro.But, I don't live there either. We're pretty quiet, all in all, out here in the cow counties.
Never heard that one before. I've heard that Roe v Wade and the increase in abortions caused crime to go down, and of course that the 100 million more guns in the US caused crime rates to go down, and '3 strikes you're out' and other stricter punishment laws caused them to go down, that an aging population has caused the crime rate to drop, but never that removing leaded gas did.
Could higher remaining concentrations of lead (pipes, paint, old gas stations etc) in older urban cities be a reason why those areas have much higher crime rates than rural areas?
Lead is still a huge issue in many inner cities today and it affects primarily black children.
I have known about lead poisoning and its affect on crime and IQ for a while and it something that is well known amongst academics but not the general public. I believe the decrease in lead is directly attributable to the decrease in crime and increase in positive educational outcomes for inner city children in the past 20-25 years.
More work needs to be done though in this regard. Too many parents still don't know about the dangers of lead in old homes. I currently live in a house built in 1892 and we are doing renovations room by room and I have a 6 year old and even though she is old enough where most medical professionals don't worry about lead poisoning, it is still a concern of mine and I get her lead tested every 6 months and if it increases, I will move.
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