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Old 08-12-2015, 06:07 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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20 miles isn't too far to live away from work. I live 25.
Good luck at commute time.

The Bay Area is one of the worst commute areas in the nation, partially because of the NIMBY's and progs that prevent sensible growth.
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Old 08-12-2015, 06:15 PM
 
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Good luck at commute time.

The Bay Area is one of the worst commute areas in the nation, partially because of the NIMBY's and progs that prevent sensible growth.
Then move.
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Old 08-12-2015, 06:17 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Then move.
Or have a sensible pro growth plan that serves the needs of the entire region instead of a very small minority that enjoy their ever growing home value.
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Old 08-12-2015, 06:22 PM
 
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Or have a sensible pro growth plan that serves the needs of the entire region instead of a very small minority that enjoy their ever growing home value.
If it was a very small minority it would have been changed long ago. A very small minority dont win elections.
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Old 08-12-2015, 07:18 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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If it was a very small minority it would have been changed long ago. A very small minority dont win elections.
A small minority for the region.
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Old 08-12-2015, 07:57 PM
 
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...that's what the progressive elites want. Elites buy houses or spacious condos in the good buildings in the good parts of town, the rest of us get stacked as renters in apartments in densely populated, appropriately diverse areas.
Have you ever thought about who pays the property taxes that YOU get to vote in? And don't try to hand me some crap about paying them "indirectly". As the owner of a rental (not in CA) I get tired of new taxes handed me by renters.

El Nox
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Old 08-12-2015, 09:53 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Have you ever thought about who pays the property taxes that YOU get to vote in? And don't try to hand me some crap about paying them "indirectly". As the owner of a rental (not in CA) I get tired of new taxes handed me by renters.

El Nox
El What? Que Pasa?
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Old 08-12-2015, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Austin
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So the liberal, progressive policies have made San Francisco an extremely desirable place to live, is that your point?
Hmmm.... I wouldn't live there if it were free. So, for me it's not desirable at all.
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Old 08-13-2015, 01:11 AM
 
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If you want to build a business or housing you buy the land from the current owners. Then you develope said land, like building an apartment complex, then you sell or rent the units and make money. This increase the supply of housing, over time the increase in supply would drive down costs.
Right.

And plenty of developers have been doing exactly that.
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Old 08-13-2015, 01:31 AM
 
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El What? Que Pasa?
Is this your answer to my question?

El Nox
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