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Old 08-13-2015, 10:43 AM
 
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Serious question. What has she said or done that makes want to support her? It seems like the dems just take her side simply because she's a woman and she's running as a democrat.
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Old 08-13-2015, 10:49 AM
 
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She is the best candidate the Democrats can put up, even as bad as she is, with all her many failings, and the Democrats have no bench.

It is Hillary or the Republican nominee. Case closed.
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Old 08-13-2015, 10:51 AM
 
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Because they are yellow dog democrats.
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Old 08-13-2015, 10:53 AM
 
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Most of the Democrats I know now support Bernie, including myself.

However, if it comes down to any of the current Republicans running or Hillary, the clear and obvious choice is Hillary. Based on their performance at the debates, there is not a single Republican in the election who will bring this country forward. The GOP is running schoolyard bullies like Donald Trump and men who fantasize about the 1950s like Huckabee, Cruz, and Walker.

I really don't want it to come down to a dynastic Bush v. Clinton, but since we're talking about the political machine, the choice between the two is incredibly easy. The choice between Trump v. Clinton is even easier.
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Old 08-13-2015, 10:55 AM
 
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Serious question. What has she said or done that makes want to support her? It seems like the dems just take her side simply because she's a woman and she's running as a democrat.
Because she isn't a Republican who are against same-sex marriage, abortions, closing corporate tax loop holes, planned parenthood, stem cell research, going back to a full scale war in Iraq and possibly Iran etc. I think Clinton is a compulsive liar, but when it comes to these things, supporters can count on her or any democrat (well maybe not closing loop holes because every election they promise to do this and they never do, probably because they are in the pockets of these corporations too).

I would support Sanders or Biden over Clinton any day.
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Old 08-13-2015, 10:57 AM
 
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Because they like seeing the right squirm at the prospect of her being Empress for 8 years .
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Old 08-13-2015, 10:58 AM
 
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Most of the Democrats I know now support Bernie, including myself.

However, if it comes down to any of the current Republicans running or Hillary, the clear and obvious choice is Hillary. Based on their performance at the debates, there is not a single Republican in the election who will bring this country forward. The GOP is running schoolyard bullies like Donald Trump and men who fantasize about the 1950s like Huckabee, Cruz, and Walker.

I really don't want it to come down to a dynastic Bush v. Clinton, but since we're talking about the political machine, the choice between the two is incredibly easy. The choice between Trump v. Clinton is even easier.
That reasoning is usually a loser at election time. Republicans have lost with the our candidate is better than the democratic candidate so we will vote.. And stayed home for romney and mccain. If you cant say why you support someone other than the lesser of 2 evils your side will lose. Unless the other side does same thing.. Bush vs clinton is exactly that.
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Old 08-13-2015, 11:00 AM
 
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Because she isn't a Republican who are against same-sex marriage, abortions, closing corporate tax loop holes, planned parenthood, stem cell research, going back to a full scale war in Iraq and possibly Iran etc. I think Clinton is a compulsive liar, but when it comes to these things, supporters can count on her or any democrat (well maybe not closing loop holes because every election they promise to do this and they never do, probably because they are in the pockets of these corporations too).

I would support Sanders or Biden over Clinton any day.
I would argue that Hillary's support for same sex marriage is vague at best. If she's said she supports it, it's because the's running for president. Five years ago, she'd say it's a state's choice. I'd also argue she's not really against fighting political and corporate corruption. Also, she was the secretary of state under Obama's first term and frankly, I don't think you could find a more intrusive candidate in terms of foreign policy and war politics.

Hillary's questionable at best. If it came down to her and Trump, I'd pick her (or a third party more likely), but aside from Trump (as well as Chris Christie and Scott Walker), most of the GOP is fairly competitive against Hillary in terms of my vote. I'd probably pick Rand over Hillary, maybe even Kasich. The others, I'd have to think about.
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Old 08-13-2015, 11:03 AM
 
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I would argue that Hillary's support for same sex marriage is vague at best. If she's said she supports it, it's because the's running for president. Five years ago, she'd say it's a state's choice. I'd also argue she's not really against fighting political and corporate corruption. Also, she was the secretary of state under Obama's first term and frankly, I don't think you could find a more intrusive candidate in terms of foreign policy and war politics.

Hillary's questionable at best. If it came down to her and Trump, I'd pick her (or a third party more likely), but aside from Trump (as well as Chris Christie and Scott Walker), most of the GOP is fairly competitive against Hillary in terms of my vote. I'd probably pick Rand over Hillary, maybe even Kasich. The others, I'd have to think about.
While you have a point, I'm certain she won't try to overturn same-sex marriage or fight it at this point. I also mentioned Democrats promise to fight loop holes, but they never do because they get big donations from them.

The only GOP candidates I would consider is Trump, maybe Rand Paul, but if he wasn't the son of Ron Paul, I probably wouldn't even look twice at him.

As of now I'm hoping to at least have Sanders or Trump in the election.
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Old 08-13-2015, 11:05 AM
 
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That reasoning is usually a loser at election time. Republicans have lost with the our candidate is better than the democratic candidate so we will vote.. And stayed home for romney and mccain. If you cant say why you support someone other than the lesser of 2 evils your side will lose. Unless the other side does same thing.. Bush vs clinton is exactly that.
Everyone loses if it's Bush v. Clinton. There is no good reason to elect either of them.

What I can say about Hillary is that her political positions are my political positions. She is right on the issues, but she is wrong personally and ethically. None of the Republicans promote views or moral values that would allow me to look in the mirror if they were values we shared.
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