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Originally Posted by PuddingPops
We need to be serious, in order to prevent history from repeating itself. The Jews served as a scapegoat to the problems the Germans were facing due to their post WW1 economy. Jews were vilified for their wealth relative to the rest of the German public and their perceived influence on domestic affairs.
This is a favorite tactic of the left: deflecting blame for failed policies and failed communities by blaming the hard working and wealthier members of our society. It's divisive politics; pitting one class of persons against another. This is exactly the same mentality that led to the Holocaust. I think it's the responsibility of the left -- in particular the more moderate and reasonable members of the left -- to call out their fellow Democrats when these views find their way into the mainstream.
The Jewish people were indeed a scapegoat, Wall Street is not. So even if you did believe it is the same tactic, the target is not the same nor is guilt/innocence.
As for your second argument, The policies you speak of are that of the Republican Party, the economy started tanking in 2005/2006( economic output started to decline in 2005,stalled in 2006) and entered a full blown recession in 2007.
your comment would mean that Democrats are trying to save republicans for taking the blame for their own policies.
The Jewish people were indeed a scapegoat, Wall Street is not. So even if you did believe it is the same tactic, the target is not the same nor is guilt/innocence.
As for your second argument, The policies you speak of are that of the Republican Party, the economy started tanking in 2005/2006( economic output started to decline in 2005,stalled in 2006) and entered a full blown recession in 2007.
your comment would mean that Democrats are trying to save republicans for taking the blame for their own policies.
At first it's "wall street" and "big money", corporations, etc. But then the narrative begins to subtly shift further to the left. Eventually, people begin to believe it's the jews [or other ethnic, religious group of people] who are pulling the strings. At least some in the Occupy Wall Street movement are honest about their beliefs. Others haven't come to the conclusion yet, but their thought process is similar and just as dangerous.
The recession was caused by irresponsible mortgage lending, thanks to policies established by Democrats and Republicans alike in order to get everyone into a home... even those who couldn't afford one or responsible enough to make the payments. So that's not a left or right issue, we can blame our entire government and PC nonsense for that. But that's a whole different rabbit hole to explore...
Politics: what if Americans were more interested in the facts rather than indulging in sensationalism, propaganda and biased rhetoric? Which way do you lean, vote, and why? Facts and sound reason, please to the extent possible, critical thinking. For all the rest, there is always Fox news.
Says the leftist who is completely and utterly dependent on rhetoric, emotion and cold blooded deliberate lies. Do you really think informed people buy into your crap for a second?
I am not a fan of MSNBC and no, I don't think the issue of extreme wealth distribution has improved any for the common man since Obama took office, but I am encouraged to see the issue raised and addressed for all the right reasons.
Lots of people, like PuddingPops here, will take these issues and concerns and repackage them with rhetoric that makes it sound as if those who have these concerns are somehow not hard-working good Americans. The problems or concerns revolving around the "haves" and "have nots," is nothing new or particularly liberal or conservative!
Why is it, however, that conservatives seem to automatically go blind to these realities and socio-economic problems as if they belong to someone else? Is it because they got theirs and don't care who else didn't or why? Or is it just easier to think in terms of taking care of ourselves rather than pool our resources like we do in so many other ways as a country.
I really don't know, but the rhetoric one way or another is not helping any. If anything tends to be divisive, it is the rhetoric rather than the facts, reason and demand for truth.
Say, Wanderer, if it weren't me, I would say you are being insulting. Instead, I think you are "throwing stones" and not much else.
I've been trying to promote facts over rhetoric, and I think I have done better than average.
If I have failed in any respects, how about some evidence rather than just unfounded accusations?
What "lies" are you accusing me of telling? And if "cold blooded deliberate lies" is not about the worst extreme of rhetoric we've had here yet, I'm not sure what is!
Step up a bit if you want to throw that sort of mud and at least provide some clue as to what you are talking about.
It would be nice if we could keep this a forum for mature adults.
I saw a bumper sticker on a car a couple weeks ago that said "FOX NEWS -- CHANGE THE CHANNEL". Why are leftists so upset about FOX NEWS? It's one of the most balanced places to go for political news. I mean, sure, the hosts of their political commentary shows (Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, and Megyn Kelly) all clearly have a bias to the right (well, maybe not Kelly) but they're all open about that and they feature a lot of representatives on their shows from the left to debate subjects, and they give all participants plenty of talking time and respect their views.
You don't get that from watching mainstream news in this country. If all you watch is ABC/CBS/NBC, etc, you get a liberal host who features the stories he or she wants you to hear, and very little input from the political right.
Fox News has them freaked out because Liberals control all other news in the USA, Canada & Europe. They one that they don't control has got them spooked...especially because so many watch Fox News.
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