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Old 08-14-2015, 07:56 PM
 
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If you're seriously in fear of your life, "bad press" shouldn't be much of a concern. If you're not seriously in fear of your life, there's no call to use lethal force.
I'm just presuming that "bad press" is what led to the police officer's decision to not withdraw his gun. So instead he just tried to physically apprehend the suspect. Very bad decision.

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What's appallingly sad is that a cop has to rely on his gun to defend himself. Seriously, aren't cops taught self defense. To be pistol whipped and take it, without knowing the moves to defend yourself is really pathetic.
Cops are taught self defense. But did you ever see how big Michael Brown was? These cops are going up against some pretty big and bulky guys. Who are filled with very violent aggression. The Memphis cop who was overpowered and killed was not pathetic. And neither was this guy.
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Old 08-14-2015, 08:01 PM
 
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I'm just presuming that "bad press" is what led to the police officer's decision to not withdraw his gun. So instead he just tried to physically apprehend the suspect. Very bad decision.



Cops are taught self defense. But did you ever see how big Michael Brown was? These cops are going up against some pretty big and bulky guys. Who are filled with very violent aggression. The Memphis cop who was overpowered and killed was not pathetic. And neither was this guy.
Doesn't matter how big the person is. If taught correctly, even a woman can take them down. I'm sorry but no man should be pistol whipped by another man....cop or not.
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Old 08-14-2015, 08:06 PM
 
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The officer cant even say how he was overpowered and lost his weapon. Seems like blaming the media was an easy excuse. And lets face it, even the guy wanted to kill the cop, he would have.
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Old 08-14-2015, 08:26 PM
 
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What's appallingly sad is that a cop has to rely on his gun to defend himself. Seriously, aren't cops taught self defense. To be pistol whipped and take it, without knowing the moves to defend yourself is really pathetic.
Police officers are trained in basic self defense, but they're not trained to be MMA fighters. Simply put, an officer should not allow a situation to escalate to the point where he needs to be trading punches with a suspect, that is what he or she has his or her service weapon for.

Just in case you weren't aware... you're not supposed to attack a police officer. The law is pretty clear on that one. And if you do, then you're going to get hurt. It's their job to enforce the law... not to get in wrestling matches and brawls where they need to put their lives on the line to put a criminal into custody.
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Old 08-14-2015, 08:31 PM
 
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Police officers are trained in basic self defense, but they're not trained to be MMA fighters. Simply put, an officer should not allow a situation to escalate to the point where he needs to be trading punches with a suspect, that is what he or she has his or her service weapon for.

Just in case you weren't aware... you're not supposed to attack a police officer. The law is pretty clear on that one. And if you do, then you're going to get hurt. It's their job to enforce the law... not to get in wrestling matches and brawls where they need to put their lives on the line to put a criminal into custody.

Better to trade punches then to kill someone with a gun....especially when that someone isn't armed. And if an officer is being pistol whipped don't you think he would fight back.
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Old 08-14-2015, 08:34 PM
 
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Doesn't matter how big the person is. If taught correctly, even a woman can take them down. I'm sorry but no man should be pistol whipped by another man....cop or not.
Police officers in natalie469's dream world:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uGU-O0NMGI

vs reality of police confrontations with criminals:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37XiSn81oFw
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Old 08-14-2015, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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They don't just fear the media, but their own departments. Crime in Baltimore gas gone up so much ever since they charged one of the cops there. They are afraid to put themselves in dangerous situations now because they feel they won't be supported if the need to use deadly force is necessary.

All I can say is arm yourselves and start the process for a concealed carry permit.
Living here in California, a CCP isn't even an option.

Thank God Cunningham wasn't compelled to kill the detective. Has Black Lives Matter condemned the actions of this thug?

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Better to trade punches then to kill someone with a gun....especially when that someone isn't armed. And if an officer is being pistol whipped don't you think he would fight back.
....... ..... ..

"The officer was just trying to diffuse the situation," Boackle, 40, said. "Mr. Cunningham sucker-punched the officer, immediately knocking him to the ground and gained control of his weapon and beat him until he was unconscious."

Do you actually read about the events you respond to?

Do you honestly believe that thugs play fair?
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Old 08-14-2015, 08:42 PM
 
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Police officers in natalie469's dream world:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uGU-O0NMGI

vs reality of police confrontations with criminals:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37XiSn81oFw

What dream world? Please tell me how a cop allows someone to pistol whip them. Do they not know how to fight back. Have they not been trained. Is this the norm with your cops.
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Old 08-14-2015, 08:49 PM
 
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If he is concerned about media attention so much he didn't do his job properly, he shouldn't have been a cop in the first place.
Yet cops that have done their job, backed up by courts, people such as you don't care about that.

They are guilty, period end of story...even when the courts say different

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I wouldn't want to be his partner if there were a chance he would not act for any reason whatsoever. He didn't sign up for an easy job, and of he can't deal with the pressures than he should resign.
Tell your leftist buddies that, when they (the cops) do their job, and people don't agree with it, even when proven innocent by the court....they just don't care.....
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Old 08-14-2015, 08:51 PM
 
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What dream world? Please tell me how a cop allows someone to pistol whip them. Do they not know how to fight back. Have they not been trained. Is this the norm with your cops.
The entire premise of this discussion is the fact that the officer hesitated because he feared the potential media backlash and online lynch mobs if he attacked this suspect. I'm sure if he had struck the suspect, we'd now be hearing a thread from you vilifying the white police officer in Birmingham who assaulted an unarmed black man!

I'm also wondering if you were there in person witnessing this assault unfold? You seem to know a lot about physical confrontations. Are you a trained fighter? Please post your credentials and then maybe your commentary on "why a cop should never allow himself to be pistol whipped by another man" might mean something. If your experience in hand to hand combat comes from watching Marvel Avengers movies -- which it seems -- then I'm not really interested.
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