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Old 08-17-2015, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Are any of these U.S. Senators who voted No on NDAA one of yours?

John Barrasso (R-WY)
Tom Coburn (R-OK)
Bob Corker (R-TN)
Mike Crapo (R-ID)
Ted Cruz (R-TX)
Mike Enzi (R-WY)
Jeff Flake (R-AZ)
Jeff Merkley (D-OR)
Rand Paul (R-KY)
James Risch (R-ID)
Bernie Sanders (I-VT)
Jeff Sessions (R-AL)
Richard Shelby (R-AL)
Ron Wyden (D-OR).
I believe the I stands for idiot while the D stands for dumbass and the R stands for Right occasionally.
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Old 08-17-2015, 08:32 PM
 
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Not all of us. Check out the Libertarian Party.
I already did.
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A small government Republican was the Republican nominee for President in 1964. Yep, it was a brief period of time. They learned in November of 64 Americans did not want small government. Thus the deal with the devil (social conservatives) in 1980
Correct.
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Old 08-17-2015, 08:50 PM
mm4
 
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..., while in many ways Democrats offer more freedom. They tend to be against mass surveillance, government spying on Americans, secret prisons, prison without a trial,...
Who do you think your fooling? Democrats knowingly promote the Big Government funding of it.

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women's choice etc.
Stop asking for handouts for bad choices.
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Old 08-17-2015, 09:10 PM
 
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Originally Posted by mm4 View Post
Are any of these U.S. Senators who voted No on NDAA one of yours?

John Barrasso (R-WY)
Tom Coburn (R-OK)
Bob Corker (R-TN)
Mike Crapo (R-ID)
Ted Cruz (R-TX)
Mike Enzi (R-WY)
Jeff Flake (R-AZ)
Jeff Merkley (D-OR)
Rand Paul (R-KY)
James Risch (R-ID)
Bernie Sanders (I-VT)
Jeff Sessions (R-AL)
Richard Shelby (R-AL)
Ron Wyden (D-OR)


Where were you when, acting for the state, Emanuel, Menino, Cuomo denounced Chick-fil-A, Hobby Lobby--some vowing to prevent their establishments in their own jurisdictions? Clear abrogations of the 1st Amendment--which Democrats hate; just like their kin in mid century Eastern Europe.

Where were you Brendan Eich was forced from Mozilla?

Where were you when Greater Boston progressive leftists willingly--and predictably--gave up their 4th Amendment rights over the course of three days, like the trained sewer rats they are?

Would you consider the progressive New York Times to be a reputable news source? NYT never printed a single word of the weeks-long Bundy range standoff--comprising a thousand people at one point--until 6 days after the climactic retreat where a militarized BLM pulled back. An exercise in Iron Curtain-esque left-wing information blackout (terrified of the Bill of Rights, the 10th Amendment sent shivers through progressive leftists in the building). Only a full 6 days later, after the herd BLM hadn't destroyed had been released, the NYT mentions the prolonged event for the very first time, in a petulant opinion piece entitled "Deadbeat on the Range" by Timothy Egan.
It was only recently when I read about Brendan Eich and the Mozilla events.

That event was, if anything, an example of democracy at work.

It's a free market. Those partaking in the market are free to decide they don't want to use your services because of your views.


I still don't understand the legality of Boston and why nobody said anything.

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Right wingers don't seem to understand the military, one of the largest if not the largest government agency around, also constitutes big government. Just because you oppose welfare, which is roughly around 15 to 20% of the federal budget, does not make you a small government conservative.
The United States military is one of the biggest socialist programs in existence.
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Old 08-17-2015, 09:35 PM
 
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The big bad conservatives that stand up for American freedom while they try to pass a clause in the NDAA saying the government can detain an American citizen indefinitely without a trial if he's suspected of "terrorism?" Which has a very wide definition, everything is the work of a terrorist today.
Obama signed a law that allows the government to kill American citizens, without trial or conviction, they deem as terrorists, and he exercised his power at least twice.
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Old 08-17-2015, 09:41 PM
 
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As a conservative, I'm here to tell you that "small, limited government" is a pipe dream that is neither feasible in the modern day, ever, nor desirable. The concept of such is solely the realm of small population frontier politics and conceptual fiction of Ayn Rand. Though, with deference to the first circumstance, I suppose that it is still relevant in local politics in low population states. Though, it would never work for a nation. Adequate self-defense against big government nations, alone, rules it out.

This concept serves to act as a Red Herring and thus make its true believers forever politically ineffective as they keep circling this particular cul-de-sac. Its a gatekeeping device that actually reinforces liberal politics through reinforcing the communist mandate of fractured individualism over family and like-community. In pother words, put down the Atlas Shrugged and cooperate with your neighbor who has the same basic self-interest.

It's not big government that you have to worry about, but rather who your government is. If they are 'you', then you are doing it right; if they are not 'you' then you are likely a rugged individualist living in a communist country.
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Old 08-18-2015, 01:32 AM
mm4
 
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The big bad conservatives that stand up for American freedom while they try to pass a clause in the NDAA saying the government can detain an American citizen indefinitely without a trial if he's suspected of "terrorism?" Which has a very wide definition, everything is the work of a terrorist today.
Um, it was a progressive Democrat, Carl Levin, who put that together for a progressive Barack Obama to sign on New Year's Eve.

The 20th century showed indefinite detention is the kind of thing socialists do.
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Old 08-18-2015, 06:27 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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and when will people stop voting for this nonsense?

Well.... I don't play the lesser of two evils game, as well as a few others that I know. As for the rest of the people I think it will be too late.....or maybe it already is.
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