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Old 08-25-2015, 01:22 PM
 
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"In 1828, Fillmore was elected to the New York State Assembly on the Anti-Masonic ticket, serving three one-year terms, from 1829 to 1831. In his final term he chaired a special legislative committee to enact a new bankruptcy law that eliminated debtors' prison."

"He was a follower and associate of Thurlow Weed, who had been a leading Anti-Mason."

"As Comptroller, he revised New York's banking system, making it a model for the future National Banking System."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millard_Fillmore#Politics

"The Anti-Masonic Party (also known as the Anti-Masonic Movement) was the first "third party" in the United States. It strongly opposed Freemasonry as a single-issue party, and later aspired to become a major party by expanding its platform and positions on other issues."

"The Anti-Masonic Party was formed in upstate New York in February of 1828. Anti-Masons were opponents of Freemasonry, believing that it was a corrupt and elitist secret society which was ruling much of the country in defiance of republican principles."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Masonic_Party
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Old 08-25-2015, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Free, as in liberty.

But not free to discuss Masonry.

Free Masons seems like a misnomer in today's world.
On an WWW forum, in a thread about Freemasonry, a group of Masons are discussing Masonry with non-Masons, and you think that someone here is "not free to discuss Masonry" ?

Who here is not free to discuss Masonry ?
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Old 08-25-2015, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Texas
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On an WWW forum, in a thread about Freemasonry, a group of Masons are discussing Masonry with non-Masons, and you think that someone here is "not free to discuss Masonry" ?
As I understand it, the Masons like to keep a lot of secrets.

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Who here is not free to discuss Masonry ?

Ok, tell me all about the Masons then.

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Old 08-25-2015, 01:30 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Free, as in liberty.

But not free to discuss Masonry.

Free Masons seems like a misnomer in today's world.
Every Mason is free to discuss Masonry. (We're here now discussing Masonry, aren't we?) Some aspects will not be divulged, such as signs and tokens by which Masons recognize each other. However, there is nothing particularly unusual about that. The same things would be said about the Knights of Columbus, the Pythians, the Odd Fellows, the Loyal Order of Eagles, etc.
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Old 08-25-2015, 01:31 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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As I understand it, the Masons like to keep a lot of secrets.




Ok, tell me all about the Masons then.

What would you like to know?
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Old 08-25-2015, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Texas
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What would you like to know?

The secret handshake.

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Old 08-25-2015, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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I have a neighbor who told me that he hates Masons. As it turns out his father knew some Masons. His father wanted to be a Mason. He 'knew' you had to be asked. The "2 B 1 ask 1" slogan, in his mind, meant that you could only join if a Mason asked you. So he [the father] stewed about it. As the years went by, his friends all seemed to enjoy being active in Masonry. But none of his friends ever recruited him. So as he got older, he got more and more angry about it. He expressed his anger to his son. Clearly his 'friends' must actually dislike him. They must all think they are better than he was, why else would they exclude him from their activity. My neighbor learned from his father to hate Masons. His father died long ago, My neighbor still carries on that hatred; "Masons are exclusive, and to become a Mason you have to be invited".

I have discussed this topic with my neighbor. Clearly I am messed up, and without any real idea of how the world truly works. He knows much better than I.

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Old 08-25-2015, 01:40 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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The secret handshake.

It exists. Just like the Knights of Pythias, we can't tell you that. (Of course, you already knew that the words, grips, and tokens would not be revealed.)
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Old 08-25-2015, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Texas
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It exists. Just like the Knights of Pythias, we can't tell you that. (Of course, you already knew that the words, grips, and tokens would not be revealed.)

Sound secretive.
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Old 08-25-2015, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Log home in the Appalachians
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Free, as in liberty.




But not free to discuss Masonry.

Free Masons seems like a misnomer in today's world.

is there a particular part of Freemasonry you wish to discuss?
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