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View Poll Results: Is it a good idea to require adults without disabilities or dependent children to do something to re
Yes 23 88.46%
No 2 7.69%
I really don't care or need more information 1 3.85%
Voters: 26. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-28-2015, 03:09 PM
 
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Conservatives and Public Assistance in Maine

Duplicate topic that put shame to that chain email or whatever going around in the RWNJ blogosphere.

Georgia should have welfare reform similar to Maine
Welfare reform works in Maine
The State of Maine Are Forcing Welfare Receipents to Earn Money

And the same exact article and website linked to at least 4 times. Well, this counts as 5 now
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Old 08-28-2015, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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The poll question should be:

Is it a good idea to require adults without disabilities or dependent children to do something to receive SNAP assistance?
It's been Federal Law to require able-bodied adults to work ( orattend school or receive state qualified job training) for almost 20 years. A provision for state waivers based on unemployment was built into the legislation.

Fed temporarily suspended the work rule for 18 months during the Great Recession/aftermath.
When that was lifted in 2010, it was back to state by state waivers.

As for this poll, it's good to see that, thus far, all agree with the 20 year old legislation that limits SNAP benefits to 3 months in 3 years without meeting a work/training program.
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Old 08-28-2015, 03:22 PM
 
Location: I'm around here someplace :)
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Excuse me if that has already been covered, because I didn't see this article until today.

This Is What Happened When Maine Forced Welfare Recipients To Work For Their Benefits*

Apparently, in Maine they made a change so that if your are an adult without a disability and with no dependent children, you must do some sort of work, training or volunteering to receive SNAP benefits.

The reported result was:



Edit:

The poll question should be:

Is it a good idea to require adults without disabilities or dependent children to do something to receive SNAP assistance?
I'd need more info, because from what I've seen (places I've lived), work is required even for those who do have young children- and I believe that's wrong.
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Old 08-28-2015, 03:28 PM
 
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Originally Posted by PedroMartinez View Post
Excuse me if that has already been covered, because I didn't see this article until today.

This Is What Happened When Maine Forced Welfare Recipients To Work For Their Benefits*

Apparently, in Maine they made a change so that if your are an adult without a disability and with no dependent children, you must do some sort of work, training or volunteering to receive SNAP benefits.

The reported result was:



Edit:

The poll question should be:

Is it a good idea to require adults without disabilities or dependent children to do something to receive SNAP assistance?

"Is it a good idea to require adults without disabilities or dependent children to do something to receive SNAP assistance? YES!
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Old 08-28-2015, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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It would probably be more efficient to just tighten the criteria in such a way that those who dropped out voluntarily would have been disqualified to begin with.

The work-for-welfare programs tend to be inefficient because now you have to hire bureaucrats to supervise all those workers, and you're unlikely to get much useful work out of them anyway.

Per OP's numbers, almost 80% dropped out voluntarily, so just change the criteria such that 80% of recipients no longer qualify.
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Old 08-28-2015, 09:06 PM
 
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As for this poll, it's good to see that, thus far, all agree with the 20 year old legislation that limits SNAP benefits to 3 months in 3 years without meeting a work/training program.
And it's shocking to see how few knew this was a federal requirement already and has been for decades. People's heads are filled with mush!
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Old 08-28-2015, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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It would probably be more efficient to just tighten the criteria in such a way that those who dropped out voluntarily would have been disqualified to begin with.

The work-for-welfare programs tend to be inefficient because now you have to hire bureaucrats to supervise all those workers, and you're unlikely to get much useful work out of them anyway.

Per OP's numbers, almost 80% dropped out voluntarily, so just change the criteria such that 80% of recipients no longer qualify.
Hmmm. Or maybe the improving economy allowed a lot of people to go back to work.

Just a thought.
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Old 08-28-2015, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Maybe I don't understand how SNAP works. It's a federal program. How much is Maine saving by enforcing this as a state. There are certain to be some savings for certain.
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Old 08-28-2015, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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And it's shocking to see how few knew this was a federal requirement already and has been for decades. People's heads are filled with mush!
I think that a lot of right-wingers would rather die than say thanks to President Bill Clinton, who muscled enough congressional Ds to get this passed over the objections of many who voted for him.

Since they can't bring themselves to acknowledge this, they simply ignore it. This has the added bonus of allowing them to fulminate to their hearts' content.
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Old 08-29-2015, 12:11 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Maybe I don't understand how SNAP works. It's a federal program. How much is Maine saving by enforcing this as a state. There are certain to be some savings for certain.
SNAP is a federal program which is administered by the states.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supple...stance_Program

If you scroll about half-way down, you will see that the states do have some options in administering the program - but not many.

Here's the fed site explaining the program - Facts About SNAP | Food and Nutrition Service
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