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Old 08-31-2015, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Especially since what's presumably supposed to be obummer actually would be pronounced oboomer. Which doesn't mean much except that he was born before 1965.
He's Irish … His name is correctly spelled, O'Bama ...

 
Old 08-31-2015, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Sioux Falls, SD area
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I'm thinking a better name for our times would be Mt. Denial, in honor of these modern times in how our country is being run these days and the mentality of many of its citizens.

What do you think?
I think you're onto something.
 
Old 08-31-2015, 08:57 PM
 
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He and his administration is changing the name of the mountain to satisfy the native American people and the Democrats in power in Alaska. If Obama was supporting states rights he would bow out of this and leave it up to all the people of Alaska to vote on the change.
Dear jmgg,

Before getting all herky jerky, let's review. Denali, nee McKinley, sits within the Denali National Park & Preserve which means that all 4,724,735.16 acres are Federal property, not the state of Alaska. That being the case what happens in the park is the sole purview of the United States government, specifically the Department of Interior. So aside from the fact that the state of Alaska's Board of Geographic Names had, for its purposes, already restored the original name, I think that you can you see this is most definitely not a state issue.
 
Old 08-31-2015, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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I think the name "Denali" is cool as heck. I'm all for the change.

Places go through name changes. It's OK. Mt McKinley is not going to fall apart just because it's now called Denali, which is a beautiful name anyway.
 
Old 08-31-2015, 09:29 PM
 
Location: interior Alaska
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He and his administration is changing the name of the mountain to satisfy the native American people and the Democrats in power in Alaska. If Obama was supporting states rights he would bow out of this and leave it up to all the people of Alaska to vote on the change.
Alaskans are the ones who requested the federal acknowledgement of the name revision, bro. The mountain is already called Denali within Alaska, this just brings the official federal name in line with the state's practice.
 
Old 08-31-2015, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Sioux Falls, SD area
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Alaskans are the ones who requested the federal acknowledgement of the name revision, bro. The mountain is already called Denali within Alaska, this just brings the official federal name in line with the state's practice.
I'm not going to dig into this since I really don't have a dog in the hunt. My "guess" as to which Alaskans that requested the name revision would overwhelmingly be the ones of the same party as our illustrious leader and not the overall population of the state. Are those odds in my favor?
 
Old 08-31-2015, 09:46 PM
 
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BTW,maybe next will be giving Lake Superior it's original name: The Ojibwe call the lake gichi-gami (pronounced as gitchi-gami and kitchi-gami in other dialects),[8] meaning "be a great sea." Henry Wadsworth Longfellow wrote the name as "Gitche Gumee" in The Song of Hiawatha, as did Gordon Lightfoot in his song, "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald". According to other sources the actual Ojibwe name is Ojibwe Gichigami ("Ojibwe's Great Sea") or Anishinaabe Gichigami ("Anishinaabe's Great Sea").[9] The 1878 dictionary by Father Frederic Baraga, the first one written for the Ojibway language, gives the Ojibwe name as Otchipwe-kitchi-gami (reflecting Ojibwe Gichigami).[8] The first French explorers approaching the great inland sea by way of the Ottawa River and Lake Huron during the 17th century referred to their discovery as le lac supérieur. Properly translated, the expression means "Upper Lake," that is, the lake above Lake Huron. The lake was also called Lac Tracy (named for Alexandre de Prouville de Tracy) by 17th century Jesuit missionaries.[10] The British, upon taking control of the region from the French in the 1760s following the French and Indian War, anglicized the lake's name to Superior, "on account of its being superior in magnitude to any of the lakes on that vast continent."[11]
 
Old 08-31-2015, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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BTW,maybe next will be giving Lake Superior it's original name: The Ojibwe call the lake gichi-gami (pronounced as gitchi-gami and kitchi-gami in other dialects),[8] meaning "be a great sea." Henry Wadsworth Longfellow wrote the name as "Gitche Gumee" in The Song of Hiawatha, as did Gordon Lightfoot in his song, "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald". According to other sources the actual Ojibwe name is Ojibwe Gichigami ("Ojibwe's Great Sea") or Anishinaabe Gichigami ("Anishinaabe's Great Sea").[9] The 1878 dictionary by Father Frederic Baraga, the first one written for the Ojibway language, gives the Ojibwe name as Otchipwe-kitchi-gami (reflecting Ojibwe Gichigami).[8] The first French explorers approaching the great inland sea by way of the Ottawa River and Lake Huron during the 17th century referred to their discovery as le lac supérieur. Properly translated, the expression means "Upper Lake," that is, the lake above Lake Huron. The lake was also called Lac Tracy (named for Alexandre de Prouville de Tracy) by 17th century Jesuit missionaries.[10] The British, upon taking control of the region from the French in the 1760s following the French and Indian War, anglicized the lake's name to Superior, "on account of its being superior in magnitude to any of the lakes on that vast continent."[11]
My state, Minnesota, is named based on a Dakota word for "clear blue water" ...
 
Old 08-31-2015, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Sioux Falls, SD area
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BTW,maybe next will be giving Lake Superior it's original name: The Ojibwe call the lake gichi-gami (pronounced as gitchi-gami and kitchi-gami in other dialects),[8] meaning "be a great sea." Henry Wadsworth Longfellow wrote the name as "Gitche Gumee" in The Song of Hiawatha, as did Gordon Lightfoot in his song, "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald". According to other sources the actual Ojibwe name is Ojibwe Gichigami ("Ojibwe's Great Sea") or Anishinaabe Gichigami ("Anishinaabe's Great Sea").[9] The 1878 dictionary by Father Frederic Baraga, the first one written for the Ojibway language, gives the Ojibwe name as Otchipwe-kitchi-gami (reflecting Ojibwe Gichigami).[8] The first French explorers approaching the great inland sea by way of the Ottawa River and Lake Huron during the 17th century referred to their discovery as le lac supérieur. Properly translated, the expression means "Upper Lake," that is, the lake above Lake Huron. The lake was also called Lac Tracy (named for Alexandre de Prouville de Tracy) by 17th century Jesuit missionaries.[10] The British, upon taking control of the region from the French in the 1760s following the French and Indian War, anglicized the lake's name to Superior, "on account of its being superior in magnitude to any of the lakes on that vast continent."[11]
Good post. Kind of puts this whole thing in perspective. Where does this end. Let's give President Obama a Rand McNally Atlas and he can spend the rest of his term re-naming mountains, lakes, and streams. It won't be easy as he will need to decide which Indian tribe's given name to use for each geologic item. A lot of these tribes historically don't like each other as it is so this could open up a fun can of worms.
 
Old 08-31-2015, 10:00 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default Great move by our President

Another great move by our President. McKinley doesn't belong on anything any more than Charles Manson does.

I like Denali. It's far, far more appropriate.
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