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And I am absofrikinutely sure that you have no idea how any of this stuff works, and you're probably an ideologue who can't see reason for the trees.
How do I know this? Because you would choose to reject the deal we helped negotiate in the hope that we could somehow reimpose sanctions to get Iran back to the table to secure a tougher deal that, in high likelihood, Iran would not agree to (hence the CURRENT deal).
Your decision making on this issue would be absurd. I keep telling you, the deal is done and is going to pass. Come up with something viable and put it to your congressman, otherwise get over it.
Ehh never really worded it like that. There is difference between 're-imposing' and completely capitulating on every demand the West preached. The sanctions haven't been lifted yet so I fail to see were it is to re-impose?
FYI, Congress should shoot it down would be a good start.
Ehh never really worded it like that. There is difference between 're-imposing' and completely capitulating on every demand the West preached. The sanctions haven't been lifted yet so I fail to see were it is to re-impose?
FYI, Congress should shoot it down would be a good start.
Ehh never really worded it like that. There is difference between 're-imposing' and completely capitulating on every demand the West preached. The sanctions haven't been lifted yet so I fail to see were it is to re-impose?
FYI, Congress should shoot it down would be a good start.
The GOP doesn't want to shoot it down. They deliberately set the vote up so they couldn't shoot it down.
Your getting it my friend, your just a little shy to cross over territories.
It's very hard to accept the premise of gifting a enemy country billions of dollars of unfrozen assets... When Iran was the country on trial for merely a decade of transgressions. The West chose the wrong avenue of diplomacy when it had the upper hand, and now we will suffer the consequences globally. On the bright side, we will save a couple cents on oil.. But at the expense of the Israeli and Iranian people.
Your getting it my friend, your just a little shy to cross over territories.
It's very hard to accept the premise of gifting a enemy country billions of dollars of unfrozen assets... When Iran was the country on trial for merely a decade of transgressions. The West chose the wrong avenue of diplomacy when it had the upper hand, and now we will suffer the consequences globally. On the bright side, we will save a couple cents on oil.. But at the expense of the Israeli and Iranian people.
The "consequences" of the current arrangement are infinitely more preferable to anything you have suggested as an alternative.
The GOP doesn't want to shoot it down. They deliberately set the vote up so they couldn't shoot it down.
No, I think the GOP wants the deal to not pass, but merely the reasons just to oppose anything Obama does. The GOP has stated some interesting points that make the deal really hard to grasp, while the Dems are having a trouble time explaining the deal.
The "consequences" of the current arrangement are infinitely more preferable to anything you have suggested as an alternative.
And it's "you're"
So your willing to sleep at night that a enemy state has become a nuclear threshold state who seeks to spread its influence through out the region? You have no problem that Iran's proxy's will become stronger and put up greater armed conflicts against Israel and the West? Or cutting sanctions to drastically increase Iran's economy and financial threshold to promote its interests world wide, in contrary to U.S interests?
Bibi was right.. You don't make a deal just to make a deal.
So your willing to sleep at night that a enemy state has become a nuclear threshold state who seeks to spread its influence through out the region? You have no problem that Iran's proxy's will become stronger and put up greater armed conflicts against Israel and the West? Or cutting sanctions to drastically increase Iran's economy and financial threshold to promote its interests world wide, in contrary to U.S interests?
Bibi was right.. You don't make a deal just to make a deal.
It's you're.
Bibi has never been right. And I'm not ok with anything you outline above (as exaggerated as it is). What I am ok with is that this deal is the best option we have. It's not a fantastic option, just the best available.
You don't have a plausible alternative so you just keep whining about the current deal as though some other magical option may *use become available.
Bibi has never been right. And I'm not ok with anything you outline above (as exaggerated as it is). What I am ok with is that this deal is the best option we have. It's not a fantastic option, just the best available.
You don't have a plausible alternative so you just keep whining about the current deal as though some other magical option may *use become available.
There is no exaggeration, this is basic factual 101 Iranian playbook. Iran is spreading its hegemonic goals through the Levant and beyond, creating strife, conflict and division against the Sunni's, all the while threatening nuclear genocide to the evil juice with bad Bibi at the helm.
Its to late for a plausible alternative, once Iran becomes richer from the sanction relief, there is no turning back. There will be no snap back sanctions, there will be no Europeans looking to ding Iran for more violations. The benefits of economic trade will strengthen the world's economy and Europe cannot turn its back on the prosperity. The deal is not enforceable because Europe will not trade it economic improvements in exchange to call out Iranian transgressions.
Bibi warned Congress to negotiate a tougher deal, but we capitulated. Bibi saw the long term repercussions for not only his country, but the U.S. While you gullibly believe that giving money to a convicted felon was the best approach, The United States is going to spend so much more money to counter Iranian influence in the region. Billions of dollars to fight against Assad yet we are giving money to its arch supporter! New weapons packages to allies to counter Iranian influence; who do not trust the deal. So the best deal the enlightened and privileged Western elite came up with was a ill conceived Trojan horse with a cash bonus of some billions of dollars. And worse of all, our fickle European allies have to agree unanimously what a violation is or isn't. This deal does not outline was wrong or right, and we will never know.
You'll remember this thread in the future when you find out this was a big mistake. Unless you do the lefty thing and blame Israel for whatever it may be.
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