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Old 09-03-2015, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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Here's some of the Tax & Spend leadership she's promising -

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/hilla...201729971.html

Typical liberal, "throw more money at the problem and it will go away" They will never learn.
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Old 09-03-2015, 11:02 AM
 
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Aren't smoking rates way, way down? And as for sugar? Well I don't really have an idea of how to get people to eat better other than to stop subsidizing corn manufacturers.
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Old 09-03-2015, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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What about the 3 most harmful drugs in America: alcohol, nicotine, and sugar?
No one ever commits crime to support their nicotine, alcohol or sugar addiction, it is because they're legal.
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Old 09-03-2015, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Here's some of the Tax & Spend leadership she's promising -

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/hilla...201729971.html

There is a huge heroin epidemic in NH, right now. The greater Manchester area is experiencing an average of one OD fatality a day, every day. Heroin is used as currency on the street. It is well beyond a ghetto problem.


Any politician that intends to appeal to voters in NH better be prepared to promise to allocate more federal $ to the situation.

Congress, not the President, controls the purse string.

There is a perception that rebab cures addiction. If relapse occurs, many blame rehab/ treatment. Reality is, patients tend to broaden their networks. Easy enough to get and stay clean in rehab. Living life in the real world without substances is the greater challenge.

Rehab/treatment is a business, a big business. Some tout success rates. The truth is in the details. Most legitimate rates are based on very limited follow-up and assumes the former patient can be located and responds truthfully to questions. Addicts are not known for honesty with themselves or anyone else. The drug has rewired their brain to protect and sustain their addiction.

It's an extremely rare heroin addict who leaves rehab/treatment and remains clean, forever. Alcohol and marijuana tend to be gateway substances. Others substitute other drugs. Those with access to and family means or court - ordered often do 3-5-7 stints in rehab/treatment and still relapse.

Unless and until an addict chooses life over addiction and is highly motivate,d no amount of treatment will make a difference. Probably as many get and stay clean without formal treatment as those who received professional treatment.

No one is raised to be a junkie. Heroin addicts come from all walks of life, race, ethnicity, religion, economic resources and so on. Parents did not cause it, can't control it and most definitely cannot cure it. Yet, addiction within a family takes the entire family down.

No one tries/dabbles in heroin with the intention of becoming addicted.
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Old 09-03-2015, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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[quote=LetsRock;41064932]Hillary needs to start with her own husband who allowed cocaine to be flown into Arkansas when he was governor. Bill was a coke head who had surgery to repair the damage to the inside of his nose from years of abuse.[/QUOTE]

I know. You read it on the internet so it must be true.
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Old 09-03-2015, 11:26 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Aren't smoking rates way, way down? And as for sugar? Well I don't really have an idea of how to get people to eat better other than to stop subsidizing corn manufacturers.
Michelle already has a war on sugar. Sugar will be a memory by the time Michelle gets done with it.
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Old 09-03-2015, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Typical liberal, "throw more money at the problem and it will go away" They will never learn.
Again, heroin addiction /OD is an epidemic in NH, right now.

Every presidential hopeful campaigning in NH is going to promise to throw federal money at rehab/treatment. Hillary's approach is to let the state decide how to spend it.

Let me know when a presidential primary candidate turns the table and asks the people of NH what they are going to do.

Then there's the fence/wall thing. All we need to do is spend $ hundreds of billions acquiring/confiscating private land, building an impenetrable wall and throwing tens of thousands of incremental patrol forces at the border and all our problems will go away.
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Old 09-03-2015, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Aren't smoking rates way, way down? And as for sugar? Well I don't really have an idea of how to get people to eat better other than to stop subsidizing corn manufacturers.
70% of US adults and 35% of minors are overweight/obese and substantially more vulnerable to Heart Disease, Diabetes, High Blood Pressure and some Cancers. It's a serious contributing factor of healthcare costs.

It's obvious most of us chose not to take responsibility for our own health.

One effective and extreme way to make a difference would be to eliminate healthcare insurance and medical and ER services for any adult with a wist size greater than X. Why should healthcare providers treat people who choose to not take responsibility for themselves?

Give the US people 2 years notice to lose it or face the consequences.

Healthcare costs and premiums would substantially decline.
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Old 09-03-2015, 11:48 AM
 
Location: North America
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Here's some of the Tax & Spend leadership she's promising -

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/hilla...201729971.html


No matter how much money gubmit throws at this, nothing will be effective. Just legalize it all, tax it, and put those funds into prevention.
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Old 09-03-2015, 11:53 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Here's some of the Tax & Spend leadership she's promising -

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/hilla...201729971.html

I was going to ask, where does she think the money is coming from? Why should we, the taxpayers, pay to fight drug abuse by the druggies? The drugs are already illegal Throw their dumb asses in jail!
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