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Old 09-12-2015, 05:22 PM
 
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Another 1500 mothers buried their children today thanks to anti-gmo activists.

 
Old 09-12-2015, 07:51 PM
 
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Why don't makers of non-gmo foods label them that way? No government action needed?
They do, genius. It's called organic labeling.

Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, Chiplotle, etc are places where you can find organic and non-gmo labeling.

Even the more mainstream commercial grocery chains like Albertson's, Von's, Ralph's, Stater Bros. etc all carry brands that have the organic and/or more specifically, non-GMO labeling. Virtually every major grocery chain has an organic area or department in their stores, which indicates rising demand for non-gmo products.

If you are pro-GMO then why in the world would you be against GMO labeling?
Wouldn't it help you to better seek out the GMO products you love so much if they were labeled as such?

I don't want to ban GMO, only that they be properly labeled so people know what they are getting and can decide for THEMSELVES if they want it or not. In a free and open society that's what every person should be free to do, make their own choices. But I guess the anti-labeling crowd think they know what's best for everyone and don't want to give us any choice.


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Another 1500 mothers buried their children today thanks to anti-gmo activists.
LOL more GMO propaganda and fear-mongering. You gotta be pretty gullible to believe such nonsense.
 
Old 09-12-2015, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Houston
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They do, genius. It's called organic labeling.

Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, Chiplotle, etc are places where you can find organic and non-gmo labeling.

Even the more mainstream commercial grocery chains like Albertson's, Von's, Ralph's, Stater Bros. etc all carry brands that have the organic and/or more specifically, non-GMO labeling. Virtually every major grocery chain has an organic area or department in their stores, which indicates rising demand for non-gmo products.

If you are pro-GMO then why in the world would you be against GMO labeling?
Wouldn't it help you to better seek out the GMO products you love so much if they were labeled as such?

I don't want to ban GMO, only that they be properly labeled so people know what they are getting and can decide for THEMSELVES if they want it or not. In a free and open society that's what every person should be free to do, make their own choices. But I guess the anti-labeling crowd think they know what's best for everyone and don't want to give us any choice.




LOL more GMO propaganda and fear-mongering. You gotta be pretty gullible to believe such nonsense.
Another 1500 children went blind today. You have blood on your hands.

Once again, no government mandate is needed on labeling. If people wish to cater to anti-GMO nuts by labeling their products as not containing GMOs they may do so.
 
Old 09-13-2015, 01:55 AM
 
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Another 1500 children went blind today. You have blood on your hands.

Do you have a link for that, or did you pull it from your rear end?
Thanks for the laughs anyway, Dave Chapelle. You are a comic genius! Will you be here all week?
 
Old 09-13-2015, 07:41 PM
 
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Monsanto is going down baby.




California Becomes First State to Label Monsanto's flagship product as a Carcinogen

Sept. 10. 2015
In a first for the country, California’s Environmental Protection Agency (Cal/EPA) has issued plans to list glyphosate — the toxic active ingredient in Monsanto’s Roundup herbicide — as known to cause cancer.

...According to a “notice of intent” issued last week by the Cal/EPA’s California’s Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment (OEHHA), the effort falls under California’s Proposition 65, in which the state is required to publish a list of chemicals known to cause cancer or birth defects or other reproductive harm.
 
Old 09-14-2015, 06:30 AM
 
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IF these GMO"s are so good for you then why are other countries banning them?
 
Old 09-14-2015, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by cisco kid View Post
They do, genius. It's called organic labeling.

Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, Chiplotle, etc are places where you can find organic and non-gmo labeling.

Even the more mainstream commercial grocery chains like Albertson's, Von's, Ralph's, Stater Bros. etc all carry brands that have the organic and/or more specifically, non-GMO labeling. Virtually every major grocery chain has an organic area or department in their stores, which indicates rising demand for non-gmo products.

If you are pro-GMO then why in the world would you be against GMO labeling?
Wouldn't it help you to better seek out the GMO products you love so much if they were labeled as such?

I don't want to ban GMO, only that they be properly labeled so people know what they are getting and can decide for THEMSELVES if they want it or not. In a free and open society that's what every person should be free to do, make their own choices. But I guess the anti-labeling crowd think they know what's best for everyone and don't want to give us any choice.




LOL more GMO propaganda and fear-mongering. You gotta be pretty gullible to believe such nonsense.


let's look at the mislabeling of '''organic'''

90% of animal feed is GMO

90% of grass and grazing growth is GMO

so an '''organic'' farmer.. grows ______ and uses manure ..... gues what that manure came from cows and other animals that ate GMO....... so it the produce he/she grows really organic???


we cant even label ''organic'' stuff correctly




Animal manure is the biggest reservoir of these nasty bacteria that are afflicting and killing so many people.

When dealing with the potential dangers of un-composted feces, mere record-keeping and record-checking cannot possibly be expected to keep people safe.


There is still no such thing as organic testing, neither in the field nor after harvest nor in any certified-organic processing facilities—and, most disturbingly, not on incoming shipments of certified-organic product from countries like China, Mexico or Argentina.

These foreign shipments account for the majority of the ""certified-organic"" food being sold in North American grocery stores.

Organic certification is all based on paperwork with no recourse to science.





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Organic food is more dangerous than conventionally grown produce because organic farmers use animal manure as the major source of fertilizer for their food crops. Animal manure is the biggest reservoir of these nasty bacteria that are afflicting and killing so many people. Because of lack oversight, the organic industry has been plagued by contamination problems worldwide. When dealing with the potential dangers of un-composted feces, mere record-keeping and record-checking cannot possibly be expected to keep people safe. In one notorious recent case involving the finding of a novel strain of O104:H4 bacteria linked to an organic farm in Lower Saxony in Germany in 2011, 3,950 people were affected and 53 died.

Said simply. While manure used in organic farms can be deadly, the cumulative conclusion after more than 2000 studies of genetically modified foods is that GMOs pose no serious health or safety concerns. There is still no such thing as organic testing, neither in the field nor after harvest nor in any certified-organic processing facilities—and, most disturbingly, not on incoming shipments of certified-organic product from countries like China, Mexico or Argentina. These foreign shipments account for the majority of the certified-organic food being sold in North American grocery stores. Organic certification is all based on paperwork with no recourse to science.

All of the alleged dangers of GM crops and food have been assessed by global experts and dismissed. Everyone from the European Union (EU) to the World Health Organization (WHO), National Academies of Science (NAS), Health Canada to the local Vancouver Coastal Health Authority (VCHA) agree there is no evidence of harm from consuming food made with GM ingredients

The Debate About GMO Safety Is Over, Thanks To A New Trillion-Meal Study
more than 2,000 studies documenting that biotechnology does not pose an unusual threat to human health and genetically modified foods are as safe or safer than conventional or organic foods
btw cross pollination/ grafting/ rooting is also genetically modified...it modifies the genes of the original.... a hybrid fruit such as nectarcots, pluots, and jazz apples are all a manipulation of the genes of different fruits making a new fruit..... so the fact is cross pollination BORNES a new genetically modified fruit
 
Old 09-14-2015, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Monsanto is going down baby.




California Becomes First State to Label Monsanto's flagship product as a Carcinogen

Sept. 10. 2015
In a first for the country, California’s Environmental Protection Agency (Cal/EPA) has issued plans to list glyphosate — the toxic active ingredient in Monsanto’s Roundup herbicide — as known to cause cancer.

...According to a “notice of intent” issued last week by the Cal/EPA’s California’s Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment (OEHHA), the effort falls under California’s Proposition 65, in which the state is required to publish a list of chemicals known to cause cancer or birth defects or other reproductive harm.
uhm

1. glyphosate does NOT cause cancer...infact it is a very tame herbicide

2. glyphosate is produces by many companies...
uhm..there are 10 main companies that hold the majority..and a dozen others that hold the rest

syngenta (switzerland) is the biggest with 18%
bayer (germany) is 2nd with 17%
monsanto(usa) 3rd with 10%
basf (germany) tied for 4th ..9%
Dow (usa) tied for 4th...9%
dupont(usa)...tied for 6th...5%
makintesham agen(sp?) (israel) 5%
nurharn (austria) 4%
sumitomo (japan) 4%
arisol lifescience (japan) 2%

and the rest 15%

3. why are you being anti-american , attacking only an american company of monsanto...but say NOTHING about the other companies....hmmm
 
Old 09-14-2015, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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IF these GMO"s are so good for you then why are other countries banning them?
because they are falling ofr the same anti-gmo conspiracy crap of this very thread

oh and since you believe the LIERS of "other countries are banning them"...list those countries

only Kenya as a outright ban where GMOs can neither be grown nor imported, and Peeru has a temporary 10 year ban........hmmm

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"Biotech crops are cultivated or imported in so many countries because they: 1. benefit farmers ($98 billion additional income for farmers since 1996); 2. benefit the planet (saved greenhouse gas emissions equivalent to removing 10 million cars); and 3. are safe. GM crops are some of the most researched and tested. For example, there are more than 1,000 studies on biotechnology available on www.biofortified.org. In addition, major scientific bodies and regulatory agencies around the world have reviewed the research on GM crops and determined they are as safe as their non-GM counterparts." ....Greg Wandrey, director for stewardship and compliance at DuPont Pioneer.
www.biofortified.org


“Every other country that has a regulatory system in place for GMOs allows GMOs to be imported for food and animal feed, including the European Union (EU), which has a thorough and comprehensive regulatory system for the assessment and approval of GMOs (EU law). “In fact, the EU's safety assessment process for GMOs is largely similar to that of other countries around the world―Japan, China, Brazil, Korea, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, the United States and many, many others. Each has determined that GMOs are substantially equivalent to their non-GM counterparts.

Last edited by workingclasshero; 09-14-2015 at 07:23 AM..
 
Old 09-14-2015, 11:13 AM
 
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because they are falling ofr the same anti-gmo conspiracy crap of this very thread

oh and since you believe the LIERS of "other countries are banning them"...list those countries

only Kenya as a outright ban where GMOs can neither be grown nor imported, and Peeru has a temporary 10 year ban........hmmm

www.biofortified.org

I found several not that it matters I'm sure you will find fault with all of them. Perhaps it's you who have bought into the opposite.
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