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Old 09-09-2015, 11:35 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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This lunatic predicts Israel will not exist in 25 years. With help from Obama and more like him.

Khamenei: Israel won't survive next 25 years | The Times of Israel
And we should give a rat's patootie about what a lunatic thinks because?
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Old 09-09-2015, 11:38 AM
 
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A smart President would have moved half a million troops and 10,000 tanks and attack helicopters into Iraq before starting "negotiations" with Iran.

But ours isn't very smart.
Sure, because our military record in the Middle East has been stellar thus far. Let's just start WWIII while we're at it.
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Old 09-09-2015, 11:40 AM
 
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He won't be alive for much longer. The current President and his cabinet are full of American Phd's. The country population is civil, educated and relatively pro-American. Try looking forward rather than backward
Nope. Just blow stuff up. It has always worked before right?
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Old 09-09-2015, 11:41 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Nope. Just blow stuff up. It has always worked before right?
Well, it's worked pretty well for the makers of blow-up stuff.

For others?

Not so much.
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Old 09-09-2015, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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Nope. Just blow stuff up. It has always worked before right?
If the educated and secular portion of the Iranian population (the one the Shah was developing before Carter & Co. allowed him to be deposed) has the muscle to overthrow and neutralize (liquidate) the Islamist nuts, well and good.

Otherwise, go to Plan "B", as in Post #4.
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Old 09-09-2015, 11:56 AM
 
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If the educated and secular portion of the Iranian population (the one the Shah was developing before Carter & Co. allowed him to be deposed) has the muscle to overthrow and neutralize (liquidate) the Islamist nuts, well and good.

Otherwise, go to Plan "B", as in Post #4.
How well did that tactic work in Iraq? American lead strikes only fuel the Islamic extremists and should only be used as a last resort. We need to work the moderates in Iran not turn them against us. Armed conflict never ends well in this region.
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Old 09-09-2015, 12:04 PM
 
Location: USA
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How well did that tactic work in Iraq? American lead strikes only fuel the Islamic extremists and should only be used as a last resort. We need to work the moderates in Iran not turn them against us. Armed conflict never ends well in this region.
It has never ended in 1400+ years of Islam, Christianity and Judaism before them, and never will. The record is pretty clear, human beings have never been peaceful (for long). Side with your tribe and Allies and the rest be dammed.
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Old 09-09-2015, 01:14 PM
 
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They have been claiming this for decades. It's one reason why we need to stay out of these things. we simply do not understand the culture. It's what they do over there to promote the idea that no one wants to screw with them.

We saw this in Iraq with Saddam trying to promote the idea that he had nukes when he didn't. They believe that promoting the idea that they are tough will cause others to not mess with them. So what? In the end it harms no one.
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Old 09-09-2015, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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This lunatic predicts Israel will not exist in 25 years. With help from Obama and more like him.

...
I guess I'll have to visit Israel sooner than later.

[wait...they've been saying that for years...!]
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Old 09-09-2015, 02:55 PM
 
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A smart President would have moved half a million troops and 10,000 tanks and attack helicopters into Iraq before starting "negotiations" with Iran.

But ours isn't very smart.
Yeah...and do what? Go into Iran and get our asses kicked like we did in Vietnam?

Nevermind how smart Obama isn't. You'd better check your own head.
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