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Old 09-22-2015, 03:34 PM
 
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Is it me, or is this woman turning out to be a colossal - ehm - difficult individual?

 
Old 09-22-2015, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by TriMT7 View Post
Oathkeeper's motto:

"To defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic"




Since Kim Davis is defying the constitution, seems like a bunch of off-purpose attention whoring to me.
I love the irony.
 
Old 09-22-2015, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I love the irony.
Problem is that the Oathkeepers don't understand the irony.
 
Old 09-23-2015, 07:01 AM
 
Location: United States
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Originally Posted by TriMT7 View Post
Oathkeeper's motto:

"To defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic"

Since Kim Davis is defying the constitution, seems like a bunch of off-purpose attention whoring to me.
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I love the irony.
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
Problem is that the Oathkeepers don't understand the irony.
As been stated numerous times in this thread, the Oath Keepers were willing to get involved because they believe that jailing someone for contempt of court is a violation of the due process clauses in the Fifth, and Fourteenth Amendments.

Maybe next time you guys could go to the Oath Keepers website, and see for yourselves why they are getting involved in any particular situation, as opposed to getting your information from a bias source, or applying your own bias slant.
 
Old 09-23-2015, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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As been stated numerous times in this thread, the Oath Keepers were willing to get involved because they believe that jailing someone for contempt of court is a violation of the due process clauses in the Fifth, and Fourteenth Amendments.

Maybe next time you guys could go to the Oath Keepers website, and see for yourselves why they are getting involved in any particular situation, as opposed to getting your information from a bias source, or applying your own bias slant.
Do you realize how many contempt of court orders are issued, now why do you suppose they picked this one when there are so many better causes. How does the Oathkeepers determine which court judgements they dislike.
 
Old 09-23-2015, 07:37 AM
 
Location: United States
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Do you realize how many contempt of court orders are issued, now why do you suppose they picked this one when there are so many better causes. How does the Oathkeepers determine which court judgements they dislike.
They chose a high profile case to get involved in, it makes perfect sense. I have never heard the Oath Keepers state that they supported Kim Davis's position. They were only going to protect her from re-arrest, not from any other court actions.

You also have to understand that this was a civil lawsuit, not a criminal case, Kim Davis broke no laws. I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would support the idea that a judge can imprison someone (indefinitely if they choose) without breaking any laws, and without a trail by a jury of their peers.
 
Old 09-23-2015, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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They chose a high profile case to get involved in, it makes perfect sense. I have never heard the Oath Keepers state that they supported Kim Davis's position. They were only going to protect her from re-arrest, not from any other court actions.

You also have to understand that this was a civil lawsuit, not a criminal case, Kim Davis broke no laws. I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would support the idea that a judge can imprison someone (indefinitely if they choose) without breaking any laws, and without a trail by a jury of their peers.

It isn't like the Judge didn't give her any options, he did The options were

1. Do your job
2. Resign
3. Do not interfere with your staff from issuing the licenses
4. Jail

She CHOSE jail.
 
Old 09-23-2015, 08:29 AM
 
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It isn't like the Judge didn't give her any options, he did The options were

1. Do your job
2. Resign
3. Do not interfere with your staff from issuing the licenses
4. Jail

She CHOSE jail.
Yep. Then she lied to the judge by assuring him she would do nothing further to obstruct the law if he would let her out. And the very first thing she did when she went back to the office was tamper with the marriage licenses and order her deputy to change the process so that he was no longer acting in his capacity as a county deputy. She has quite an inflated sense of herself, believing that she should be allowed to disobey the court at her own whim. I hope the judge disabuses her of that notion.
 
Old 09-23-2015, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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They chose a high profile case to get involved in, it makes perfect sense. I have never heard the Oath Keepers state that they supported Kim Davis's position. They were only going to protect her from re-arrest, not from any other court actions.

You also have to understand that this was a civil lawsuit, not a criminal case, Kim Davis broke no laws. I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would support the idea that a judge can imprison someone (indefinitely if they choose) without breaking any laws, and without a trail by a jury of their peers.
Yes they choose cases so they can gain attention and increase income, but their venue seems to be either the religious right or red necks, I don't expect to see them defending minorities anytime soon.

People have been jailed for not paying alimony, disclosing sources, why go to a lengthy trial for something so obviously blatant. The legislature probably won't do anything because there is an excellent possiblitiy they feel the same way, meanwhile no one get's a license. Thank god it isn't gun licenses that would really get their attention.

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Old 09-23-2015, 11:06 AM
 
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"Four couples have asked a US judge to order Kentucky clerk Kim Davis to reissue their marriage licences after she altered them to remove her name."

Kim Davis case: Kentucky clerk faces new legal challenge - BBC News

Looks like Ms. Davis is going to be called on to account for her actions.
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