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Old 09-12-2015, 08:10 AM
 
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No, no. They are not socialists. Not in the UK Labor Party and certainly not here in the American Democratic Party. Surely that is extremist rhetoric to suggest such a thing. Or so the supporters of Barack Obama and the left keep telling us.

And yet, they are. Jeremy Corbyn, a radical leftwing socialist, has just won the leadership of the UK's Labor Party, replacing the Ed Miliband. And Bernie Sanders is currently leading Hillary Clinton in the Democratic presidential primary in Iowa and New Hampshire, the first two states to vote next year.
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Socialist Jeremy Corbyn wins UK Labour leadership in landslide

Radical leftwinger Jeremy Corbyn on Saturday won the crown of Britain's main opposition Labour party in a landslide victory, becoming the nation's most left-wing political leader for over 30 years.

The 66-year-old socialist, whose policies have been compared to those of Greece's Syriza and Spain's Podemos, was named leader after clinching 59.5 percent of the 422,664 votes cast by Labour party members and supporters.
Of course there have been a variety of different flavors of socialism over the years, from the Marxism of the Soviet Union, the Italian Socialism of Benito Musolini, the Fascism of the National Socialist German Workers Party (Nazi Party) and of course the Communism of China, which is still governed by its Communist party to this very day.

Of course all of the European movements started as Democracies, until the Socialists took power and decided it was better to rule without the consent of the governed. Fortunately for UK, it does not appear that the Labor Party has any immediate opportunities to take that country over.

However, here in the US, the Democratic Party (The American Socialist Party) does control the presidency, and have been ruling increasingly by decree over the last seven years, just like all of the other post-democratic Western socialist governments have done before them.
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Old 09-12-2015, 08:30 AM
 
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From the New York Times:
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With Jeremy Corbyn Elected as New Leader, Britain’s Labour Party Takes a Hard Left Turn

Britain’s opposition Labour Party on Saturday took a remarkable leftward turn, electing as its leader Jeremy Corbyn, a longtime socialist committed to nationalizing key industries, scrapping Britain’s nuclear missile system and reversing the centrist policies of previous leaders such as Tony Blair.

The result of the contest, announced on Saturday morning in London, gave stewardship of the Labour party to the hard left for the first time in more than three decades, a development seen here as one of the most surprising upsets in modern British politics.

Much like Senator Bernie Sanders, the Vermont independent who has ignited liberal passions in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination in the United States, Mr. Corbyn is promising radical approaches to longstanding problems.
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Old 09-12-2015, 08:59 AM
 
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Corbyn embraces anti-Semites, Holocaust deniers, and homophobes. Which makes me think his socialism is more national in character than the traditional British Labour social democracy, and it also makes me think he would be quite popular among a lot of C-D bigots.
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Old 09-12-2015, 09:34 AM
 
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Corbyn embraces anti-Semites, Holocaust deniers, and homophobes. Which makes me think his socialism is more national in character than the traditional British Labour social democracy, and it also makes me think he would be quite popular among a lot of C-D bigots.
We must remember as leader of the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers Party) Adolf Hitler was a socialist who fought for the rights of workers!

The government that can give you everything you need can take everything away.
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Old 09-12-2015, 09:46 AM
 
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And the Conservative party in Britain is more successful than any other party.

I don't really understand the point of this thread.
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Old 09-12-2015, 10:05 AM
 
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Corbyn embraces anti-Semites, Holocaust deniers, and homophobes. Which makes me think his socialism is more national in character than the traditional British Labour social democracy, and it also makes me think he would be quite popular among a lot of C-D bigots.
That will gain him support from the UK Conservatives and the UK Tea Partiers (UKIP) as well.
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Old 09-12-2015, 10:15 AM
 
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The Left embraces Socialism, Marxism, Communism, or as some like to call it 'Big Government'. With this philosophy of the Left, it is no coincidence that the Left supports Islamic bigotry and terrorism, since Islam is also a totalitarian system through its enforcement of Sharia Law.

The Left and Islam are both anti-semites, 9/11 and holocaust deniers, and strive to topple the evil West and bring about a more radical new form of totalitarian Government.
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Old 09-12-2015, 10:24 AM
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Define socialism, using a real world example of a current nation(preferably European), and tell us what you actually disagree with about that nations form of government.

and then explain why you believe that nation is failing or not failing.
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Old 09-12-2015, 10:56 AM
 
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We must remember as leader of the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers Party) Adolf Hitler was a socialist who fought for the rights of workers!

The government that can give you everything you need can take everything away.
Oh, I'm aware of the "socialism" in National Socialism.
Corbyn's a step in that direction.
It's not your old man's Labour anymore.
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Old 09-12-2015, 08:15 PM
 
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Jeremy Corbyn is to the left of the UK labour party, but he is not a socialist or even a social democrat.
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