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Old 09-16-2015, 02:44 AM
 
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A lot better than if the non union members negotiate a better deal.
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Old 09-17-2015, 02:07 PM
 
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They aren't. Unless you live in a right to work state, you still have to pay the dues. Even at that, you do not get to vote on the contract, it's a take it or leave it situation for you. There are also other "members only" things the unions can offer. They generally are not deal breakers but all the same.

Again, this way the company can't offer non member employee's more money thereby undercutting the union.

It's also a take it or leave it situation when there's not a union

"Again, this way the company can't offer non member employee's more money thereby undercutting the union."

Is that supposed to explain, and justify, the union being forced to provide free services?? Because you Do NOT take away other people's rights just because doing so will let some damn company make a higher profit. That is totally absurd.

And do you wanna take a wild guess what will happen to the higher pay and benefits once the union is fully undercut and isn't there anymore? THEY'RE GONE
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Old 09-17-2015, 02:09 PM
 
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They aren't. Unless you live in a right to work state, you still have to pay the dues. Even at that, you do not get to vote on the contract, it's a take it or leave it situation for you. There are also other "members only" things the unions can offer. They generally are not deal breakers but all the same.

Again, this way the company can't offer non member employee's more money thereby undercutting the union.
Is that even legal?
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Old 09-17-2015, 02:11 PM
 
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It doesn't, which is why the law says all employee's are to fall under the union contract and why this is not the problem you are making it out to be.

Without all falling under the negotiated contract the company could offer the others more, uncutting the union.
ok. I get what you're saying now
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Old 09-17-2015, 09:14 PM
 
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It's also a take it or leave it situation when there's not a union
It's take it or leave with the unions.
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Old 09-17-2015, 09:23 PM
 
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ok. I get what you're saying now
Yes, my argument wasnt anti union. I'm agnostic on unions. If you want to belong to one, great. If not, great again.
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